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In my search for prototype beer cars, I found a lot of breweries never owned or leased them...there were once a heck of a lot of breweries in the U.S....(a lot in Wisconsin,

but they had no monopoly).  So, did Yuengling historically actually own or lease any

logoed cars?  Somebody should do a book on just prototype beer reefers....there have

been fantasy cars done for breweries I found had no cars.

I doubt Yuengling had their own cars; I was always curious to know all these O scale reefers we see were really prototypical.  What sparked my interest in this is the recent announcement of Atlas O's non-prototypical reefers, like the Altoona Brewery one.  So I thought it would be great to see Atlas do a Yuengling reefer.

I'm IN for two road numbers if you make them. PRRfan, are you up for spearheading this?

 

Not to discourage you, but the Natty Boh reefer project was a real handful. I had a similar idea about doing either (or both) a Rapa or Habbersett Scrapple reefer. Neither company was "receptive". Then I came up with a Farmer Bill fantasy car. Almost no interest here. 

 

Step 1, contact Yuengling to see if you can get permission to make these things. 

Step 2, get commitment for about 200 of these cars.

 

Gilly

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Yuengling has, I  believe, issued two sets of trains.  The first was a series of freight cars. I don't know if there was an engine and caboose or not.

 

The second set was a passenger train issued one car at a time per year.  The cars were k-line and were still going whe kline folded.  Instead of going with k line by lionel they went mth.  The last car was issued by mth and the engine was a rail king gs4 daylight with ps2 that was painted in Yuengling colors and had special announcements.  So its the only set I know of produced by two different manufacturers. I am fortunate to have the whole passenger set - my parents dutifully bought me the new car each year it came out.  I  was very surprised when I received the engine as well. 

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I believe that the K-Line cars were are traditional sized cars, none scale sized like the ones Atlas makes.  Having been born in Pottsville, PA, I would love to have a scale Yuengling car on my layout even if its a fantasy car like my Natty Boh reefer.

 

Sirt, love what you did with the Reading car.   This would make a cool brewery scene.

 

Jim

I have written to Yuengling in the past asking them to do a scale reefer, either an Atlas one or an MTH Premier 36' reefer.  I've also talked to MTH about it.  Yuengling seems to want all branded merchandise to go through their gift shop.  They weren't really happy with the passenger car series, sales-wise, and said that they didn't think there was a market based on their experience with the passenger series.

 

I know I'd buy one of each road number in each label design if they would do a series again.

 

Andy

I would be in for a Yuengling reefer. I have the two Yuengling tank cars made by K-Line, a beige one and a purple car that could be used as a Piggy bank with a coin slot. I believe the purple car was sold by Yuengling. Not sure if the beige one had to be purchased from Yuengling or not. Both of mine were previously owned.

 

Pete

Coors had (has?) diesel switchers lettered for itself to work the Golden plant..dunno

but would like to know if Coors used steam switchers lettered for itself prior to that?

Am guessing Yuengling had no lettered engines for its plant?  Also wonder how "Yuenglng" is pronounced by its area locals?  Looks like an anglicization from the

German "Juengling", which would be pronounced "Yewngling", as in "few".  I have heard it pronounced "Yingling", as in "jingling"?

 

Originally Posted by Gilly@N&W:

I'm IN for two road numbers if you make them. PRRfan, are you up for spearheading this?

 

Not to discourage you, but the Natty Boh reefer project was a real handful. I had a similar idea about doing either (or both) a Rapa or Habbersett Scrapple reefer. Neither company was "receptive". Then I came up with a Farmer Bill fantasy car. Almost no interest here. 

 

Step 1, contact Yuengling to see if you can get permission to make these things. 

Step 2, get commitment for about 200 of these cars.

 

Gilly

Thanks for the info, Gilly.  I remember some of the Natty Boh project with Atlas, but I couldn't recall the particular issues.  I've actually been thinking about this idea for months now, but have been debating to ask about others interested.  I'd figured I'd try to get the ball rolling and see what people thought. 

Originally Posted by Andy Hummell:

I have written to Yuengling in the past asking them to do a scale reefer, either an Atlas one or an MTH Premier 36' reefer.  I've also talked to MTH about it.  Yuengling seems to want all branded merchandise to go through their gift shop.  They weren't really happy with the passenger car series, sales-wise, and said that they didn't think there was a market based on their experience with the passenger series.

 

I know I'd buy one of each road number in each label design if they would do a series again.

 

Andy

Thanks, Andy.  How long ago did you inquire about this with Yuengling?

Thank you to everyone who showed previous O scale Yuengling items, but just not at all what I have in mind.  Personally, I'd like to have either a Atlas O Master Series or MTH Premier woodside reefer.  The graphics need to be tasteful and something that would look period-correct if a prototype had really existed in the early 20th century (like the Natty Boh and recent Atlas O releases.)  IMO, I've seen too many fantasy reefers that just didn't look right to me.

Originally Posted by NJCJOE:

Somebody did make some Yuengling cars. I believe it was K-Line

Yes, K Line did make Yuengling cars. We stopped at the brewery in Pottsville on the way back from a train show in Reading several years ago, and there were some cars for sale in the gift shop. I don't remember what they were though.

Don

Yes, I understand what you are saying. And, I would buy such an Atlas car, or one in each road number if available.
 
Jim
 
 
Originally Posted by PRRfan:

.... Personally, I'd like to have either a Atlas O Master Series or MTH Premier woodside reefer.  The graphics need to be tasteful and something that would look period-correct if a prototype had really existed in the early 20th century (like the Natty Boh and recent Atlas O releases.)  IMO, I've seen too many fantasy reefers that just didn't look right to me.

 

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That 1985-2000 K-Line collectors guide for which I posted a scan of the cover in another thread today contains among other things a listing of production by railroad name.  The attached is an enlarged scan of the very last page in the book which shows their Yuengling items produced from 1990 through 1999.

 

There’s a total of 12 items listed.  BTW, the last item listed is a “Black/Tan” boxcar, not a reefer.

 

HTH and BTW when I lived in Western Pennsylvania years ago Yuengling wasn’t distributed there but it has become my favorite beer now that it is readily available here in Florida ever since they bought a former brewery in Tampa.

 

Bill 

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Originally Posted by PRRfan:
Originally Posted by Andy Hummell:

I have written to Yuengling in the past asking them to do a scale reefer, either an Atlas one or an MTH Premier 36' reefer.  I've also talked to MTH about it.  Yuengling seems to want all branded merchandise to go through their gift shop.  They weren't really happy with the passenger car series, sales-wise, and said that they didn't think there was a market based on their experience with the passenger series.

 

I know I'd buy one of each road number in each label design if they would do a series again.

 

Andy

Thanks, Andy.  How long ago did you inquire about this with Yuengling?

 

Don't remember exactly, but it was right around the time K-Line was going under.  Don't know if their policy has changed, though.  Who knows, maybe the time has come to try again.  If I were going to try and convince them now, I would take some good photos of an Atlas wood-sided beer reefer and an MTH Premier 36' wood-sided reefer with an attractive beer theme and send it to them to let them know what kind of reefers we are talking about.  I would also point to this thread as evidence of interest.

 

Andy

 

 

It might help that some time has past since then.  I'll see how this thread progresses with folks that would be interested in this - so if you are, please speak up!

 

And on a sidenote, can we please not bring up the older K-line offerings - I'd like to see what interest we can get with a Atlas O/MTH offering.  Nothing wrong with the K-line stuff, just not anywhere near what I'm thinking - compairing apples to oranges.

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Originally Posted by PRRfan:

It might help that some time has past since then.  I'll see how this thread progresses with folks that would be interested in this - so if you are, please speak up!

 

And on a sidenote, can we please not bring up the older K-line offerings - I'd like to see what interest we can get with a Atlas O/MTH offering.  Nothing wrong with the K-line stuff, just not anywhere near what I'm thinking - compairing apples to oranges.

I think the first step is to contact them and see if your wants and their needs can come 

together. It might be since these are sold in their visitor center that price might be a factor. Non train people that come through might pick up a $50 car for family member or friend but not want to spend 100 bucks on a fine model. Would they be interested in a single design with a few road numbers or a collection of cars lettered for all of their common products along the lines of the passenger cars? My guess is toy buyers will far outnumber scale modelers in this case.

 

Pete

Yuengling will NOT have any more train cars made UNTILL all present stock is sold out at the gift shop. They will not allow anyone to make or use their name on anything.

 

I have been trying for the last 6 years to get yuengling to make scale billboard reefers made, even told them weaver models only requires 100 cars to do a custom run. They could do a run of 250 cars, 25 in each brand they sell. 

 

Unless everyone on this forum calls the gift shop at 1-570-628-4890 to request scale billboard beer reefers, don't hold your breath.

Originally Posted by DL&W Pete:

Yuengling will NOT have any more train cars made UNTILL all present stock is sold out at the gift shop. They will not allow anyone to make or use their name on anything.

 

I have been trying for the last 6 years to get yuengling to make scale billboard reefers made, even told them weaver models only requires 100 cars to do a custom run. They could do a run of 250 cars, 25 in each brand they sell. 

 

Unless everyone on this forum calls the gift shop at 1-570-628-4890 to request scale billboard beer reefers, don't hold your breath.

Thanks for the info, Pete.  Bummer to hear they're reluctant to allow a run of these.  All I'd want is the permission to use the name and logos on a reefer car - that's it! 

 

Well actually, I'd also like to be able to buy the actual beer in the state I live in, but that's different story.

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