The picture depicts the Jersey Central's Blue Comet, the Reading's Crusader and the B&O's ???? leaving Hoboken on their runs south. What is the name of the B&O's train?

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Bobby Ogage

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johnstrains posted:

Royal Blue?

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!!!!

The EMC EA diesel on the point is the give-away.  

And just think...we've had the opportunity to buy replicas of the Reading and CNJ streamliner/locomotives, but never the EA or it's charge.  3rd Rail is accepting reservations for the 'Royal Blue' train, but as for the EA?... a 1:1 of which resides in the Beano's Baltimore museum????? (sigh)

 

Bobby Ogage posted:

The picture depicts the Jersey Central's Blue Comet, the Reading's Crusader and the B&O's ???? leaving Hoboken on their runs south.

None of those railroads operated in nor out of Hoboken, as the Hoboken Terminal was Lackawanna (DL&W) and later (1955?) Erie RR. All three of the railroad trains in the art work operated in and out of the Central Railroad of New Jersey terminal in Jersey City.

What is the name of the B&O's train?

 

 

Hot Water posted:
Bobby Ogage posted:

The picture depicts the Jersey Central's Blue Comet, the Reading's Crusader and the B&O's ???? leaving Hoboken on their runs south.

None of those railroads operated in nor out of Hoboken, as the Hoboken Terminal was Lackawanna (DL&W) and later (1955?) Erie RR. All three of the railroad trains in the art work operated in and out of the Central Railroad of New Jersey terminal in Jersey City.

What is the name of the B&O's train?

 

 

You beat me to it Jack.  The B&O had controlling interest in the Reading which controlled the CNJ.

The EA in the photo is accurate as the EA arrived in 1937 which was the same year the Crusader was delivered.  The Blue Comet only lasted until 1941. 

The three railroads have a complex history in their relationship.  If it had not been for Conrail, CNJ had a good chance becoming part of the B&O / C&O and is why the standard paint scheme on the CNJ starting in the mid 60's was based on the B&O blue and yellow.

The real confusing part of the whole arrangement was how did the N&W fit into the picture?  They partially financed the GP40ps that were CNJ's last new locomotive power.  That is a conversation for a different thread. 

Jonathan

 

Hot Water posted:
Bobby Ogage posted:

The picture depicts the Jersey Central's Blue Comet, the Reading's Crusader and the B&O's ???? leaving Hoboken on their runs south.

None of those railroads operated in nor out of Hoboken, as the Hoboken Terminal was Lackawanna (DL&W) and later (1955?) Erie RR. All three of the railroad trains in the art work operated in and out of the Central Railroad of New Jersey terminal in Jersey City.

What is the name of the B&O's train?

 

 

So it's a trick question? Like: "Now, uh, Ms. Vito, being an expert on general automotive knowledge, can you tell me... what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet, with a 327 cubic-inch engine and a four-barrel carburetor?" "Nobody could answer that question!" "Your Honor, I move to disqualify Ms. Vito as a "expert witness"!" "Can you answer the question?" "No, it is a trick question!" "Why is it a trick question?" "'Cause Chevy didn't make a 327 in '55, the 327 didn't come out till '62. And it wasn't offered in the Bel Air with a four-barrel carb till '64. However, in 1964, the correct ignition timing would be four degrees before top-dead-center."

BobbyD posted:
Hot Water posted:
Bobby Ogage posted:

The picture depicts the Jersey Central's Blue Comet, the Reading's Crusader and the B&O's ???? leaving Hoboken on their runs south.

None of those railroads operated in nor out of Hoboken, as the Hoboken Terminal was Lackawanna (DL&W) and later (1955?) Erie RR. All three of the railroad trains in the art work operated in and out of the Central Railroad of New Jersey terminal in Jersey City.

What is the name of the B&O's train?

 

 

So it's a trick question? Like: "Now, uh, Ms. Vito, being an expert on general automotive knowledge, can you tell me... what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet, with a 327 cubic-inch engine and a four-barrel carburetor?" "Nobody could answer that question!" "Your Honor, I move to disqualify Ms. Vito as a "expert witness"!" "Can you answer the question?" "No, it is a trick question!" "Why is it a trick question?" "'Cause Chevy didn't make a 327 in '55, the 327 didn't come out till '62. And it wasn't offered in the Bel Air with a four-barrel carb till '64. However, in 1964, the correct ignition timing would be four degrees before top-dead-center."

Funny but, I do NOT think that the original poster was asking a "trick question"! Many, MANY people that are NOT originally from the New York - New Jersey area, are knowledgable on all the various railroads and their terminals from more than 60/70 years ago. 

No, not a trick question at all. More like a whodunit. Detective work where someone here knows something that solves the problem or answers the question. The OP's question got answered AND an additional twist was correcting the OP on the location of the original painting. It happens all the time here and it's part of the fun.

Lew

 

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