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After late December's big changes at Yahoo, the Jersey Central modelers group has lost everything.  Attempts to have it moved got nowhere.

I am trying to find out more about the post WW-II club cars the Jersey Central ran on some of their trains.  Club cars on the CNJ dated from the late 19t century.  Those desiring such an accommodation paid the railroad an annual fee in addition to their monthly commuter tickets for the privilege of riding in them.

In1947 or 48, CNJ converted some coaches to club car service. Those in use before WW-II were converted back to coaches during the war years, then retired or scrapped as some were stepping into their 5th decade of service. These cars had names such as Jersey Shore, Monmouth and Plainfield. There were others and they had car numbers too. They were air-conditioned and initially had roofs painted dull silver. They stood out in post-War aerial photos of the CNJ Terminal coach yard.  Eventually, the club cars got the same roof paint as other CNJ passenger cars.

When the CNJ began using more modern equipment just before becoming NJ Transit, the club cars were retired.  Jersey Shore was given an open platform on one end and its interior was modified. It's now in a rail museum. Another club car became an office car for the Virginia Central.

The "plainfield" in the late 1950's wore its name in lower case letters, as did 'Monmouth,' both of which I saw at the CNJ terminal at Jersey City while on my way home from work.

I am trying to find out some 6 decades later what numbers these cars had when working as club cars. Possibly their former numbers as coaches?  'Monmouth' had an open platform on one end, but the Plainfield remained intact with two vestibules, so far as I know. 

Is there anyone who may know more about these cars and their disposition?

S. Islander - who also rode the CNJ in its day.

 

 

 

 

 

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Monmouth was originally 1179, then it became Biela when it ran on The Blue Comet. It was retired around 1973, and is now part of a restaurant in Clinton, NJ.

1178 was the other observation car from The Blue Comet, and it was named De Vico. It simply reverted to it's old number and didn't have a name. It was the last piece of the set to be retired, serving as a NJT inspection car into the 1990's. It was retained for preservation, it's somewhere in Jersey, but not sure where.

Not sure about what happened to the rest of these, but here are the names and numbers of some of the rest:

1171 was Holmes on TBC, then became Seashore. Always a coach.

1172 was Westphal on TBC, then became Tamaques. Coach, may be at Winslow Junction.

1173 was D'Arrest on TBC, became Beachcomber. Coach.

1174 was Faye on TBC, became Echo Lake. Coach.

1175 was Spitaler on TBC, became Wekearny. Coach.

1177 was Brorsen on TBC, became The Suburban. Coach.

Another club coach was named Red Bank. This name may have appeared on two separate cars.

Monmouth and 1178 frequently were coupled to each end of the same train so that only the locomotive had to change ends. After Monmouth went oos, 1178 alternated between the main line and the NYLB.

 

After the CNJ replaced the Central Railroad of New Jersey on their coach signboard with Jersey Central Lines around 1944, the club cars only had names painted in the center of the body, under the windows, while the regular coaches had their number painted in the same place. 

Earlier, the coaches had their numbers at each end of the body, under the windows, but this probably pre-dates the club car era.

Hope I'm not too late to the party. Just picked up 7 cars that I'm repainting for the CNJ, and was doing a bit of research to figure out what to number/name them as.

Came across the (looks like) "Netherwood" (1111), listed as a club car, pre "Jersey Central Lines". Obviously not one of the BC observation cars (which all had inset ends for larger platforms). Looks like a steel sheathed wooden car by the trussrods.

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/cnj_club1.jpg

Also the above mentioned later era "jersey shore", which, while a club car, retained both vestibules.

http://www.northeast.railfan.n...nj_jersey_shore0.jpg

"westfield" (former 1196), stayed a coach

http://www.northeast.railfan.n...s/cnj_westfield0.jpg

There's also the "jersey coast" (currently at Whippany), which started out as coach 1201, and was converted for club service in 1947. Apparently lost one vestibule for an observation deck later

http://rr-fallenflags.org/cnj/cnj-co00akg.jpg

Other potential club car names: Wilkesbarre, Audenried, Penobscot, Lansdale, Wildwood, Scranton, Lehighton, Surfside, Point Pleasant, Lehigh, Howard, Evona, Raritan.

Suggesting this because they show up on CNJ decals that were commissioned by the late Tom Bavolar of "Tom's Model Trains", and I assume he did some research. These were from the pre-"Jersey Central Lines" era, and also included Tamaqua, Plainfield, Jersey Shore, which were definitely club cars.

Later names, base on the "Jersey Central Lines" era decals are: windowaskin, queen city, baltusrol, bay head.

beachcomber, monmouth, wekearny, the suburban, seashore, echo lake, jersey shore, plainfield, jersey coast,  westfield, red bank are all names on that sheet that correspond to verified club cars.

I believe there was also a "monmouth II", which may have been another one of the Blue Comet observation cars. Just came across a reference saying "monmouth II" was 1178, DeVico.

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@Trainman2 posted:

After the CNJ replaced the Central Railroad of New Jersey on their coach signboard with Jersey Central Lines around 1944, the club cars only had names painted in the center of the body, under the windows, while the regular coaches had their number painted in the same place.

Earlier, the coaches had their numbers at each end of the body, under the windows, but this probably pre-dates the club car era.

The club car era goes back at least as far as 1894, when the first "Netherwood" (originally named the "Howard", after the first president of the Plainfield Commuter Club) was assigned to the service. Service was suspended during USRA administration in WW I, but resumed afterwards. The original "Netherwood" burned, but was replaced by a car of the same name either in 1918 or 1919. It was joined by the "Plainfield" and the "Evona".

It's still a work in progress. After reading some of Tom's writings about his modeling, it seems some of the names may have been for "fantasy" cars that didn't exist (I know of at least 3 sets of decals he made with different "club car" names), so if there isn't a picture of it, or it wasn't one of the club cars created from the old BC cars, take it with a grain of salt. The info I got about the Plainfield Commuter Club comes from old newspaper articles that someone posted for me on facebook. If only people had smartphones back in the day and could have taken more photos!

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