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Originally Posted by CWEX:

3985?...who knows?  Maybe after they tackle the 4014?... I would think the 3985 shorter driver wheel base.  Maybe Hotwater knows what the max degree is on curvature for the 3985.

1) The UP Steam Crew will not actually be restoring/rebuilding the 4014, as a outside contractor will be doing that. Thus, you would THINK that the UP Steam Crew could get 3985 in line for her 15 year FRA inspection (due 2014).

 

2) The tender is more the limiting factor on curve negotiation for either 3985 and/or 4014. However, boiler overhang is another "issue".

On another note, the connector track between the UP & BNSF tracks at Colton, CA was recently torn out and re-laid. The signals were changed/moved away from the very close clearance positions they were in before. The new connector track was broadened and all close clearances were eliminated.

 

I have no idea whether one has to do with the other, I doubt it, but the articulated locomotives will definitely fit through there now. It could of been just part of the track re-alignment plans when they tore out the diamond and built the new flyover, so the UP tracks now go over the top of the BNSF tracks in Colton. It's definitely an option now, when they move 4014 to the West Colton yard before the long tow back home.

 

The UP/SF Diamond in Colton, 100+ years of history...gone in a matter of days!

 

  

I'm still blown away when I think about it.  Just think, in our lifetimes we'll see a Big Boy under steam.  Never have things been better for us steam fans.

 

765 and NS steam program

PM 1225 will be under steam again soon.

261

611 hopefully

UP 844 as always

and lets not forget all the tourist operations that keep the smaller engines rolling.

 

Good time, Good times.

 

Last edited by superwarp1
Originally Posted by AGHRMatt:

Any idea when the first segment of the actual move is scheduled to take place?

When I was there 2 weekends ago, they said they do not have a specific date yet, as it all depends on the prep work being done now, and what they find as they go along. I was told that when they do have a date, it will posted on the website, and it will be open to the public.

Originally Posted by TimDude:

Maybe they are in no hurry. Lets think this through, if I had a choice of working either in Cheyenne or Southern California during this winter, I think the choice is obvious. 

That really isn't logical, as virtually nothing involved with the "rebuild" by the outside contractor can be done while the locomotive sits outdoors. Plus, they still need to get the 4014 over a maintenance pit in order to properly, and safely, service the 16 driver axle roller bearings, as well as the 4 engine truck roller bearings. The 16 axle roller bearings take a different lubricant than the outside rollers on the trailing truck & tender.

Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by TimDude:

Maybe they are in no hurry. Lets think this through, if I had a choice of working either in Cheyenne or Southern California during this winter, I think the choice is obvious. 

That really isn't logical, as virtually nothing involved with the "rebuild" by the outside contractor can be done while the locomotive sits outdoors. Plus, they still need to get the 4014 over a maintenance pit in order to properly, and safely, service the 16 driver axle roller bearings, as well as the 4 engine truck roller bearings. The 16 axle roller bearings take a different lubricant than the outside rollers on the trailing truck & tender.

How hard is it to get the proper lubes for the steam locomotives and tenders?  You are dealing with steam, head and hot oil and fuel.  I guess you just cannot get it at Auto Zone or Granger's.

Originally Posted by Dominic Mazoch:
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by TimDude:

Maybe they are in no hurry. Lets think this through, if I had a choice of working either in Cheyenne or Southern California during this winter, I think the choice is obvious. 

That really isn't logical, as virtually nothing involved with the "rebuild" by the outside contractor can be done while the locomotive sits outdoors. Plus, they still need to get the 4014 over a maintenance pit in order to properly, and safely, service the 16 driver axle roller bearings, as well as the 4 engine truck roller bearings. The 16 axle roller bearings take a different lubricant than the outside rollers on the trailing truck & tender.

How hard is it to get the proper lubes for the steam locomotives and tenders?  You are dealing with steam, head and hot oil and fuel.  I guess you just cannot get it at Auto Zone or Granger's.

As usual your typing/spelling skills are confusing. The tender and main axle roller bearings lubes are not at all difficult to obtain, and have nothing to do with "steam, head and hot oil and fuel", what ever THAT means.

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