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SaWeeeeeet!! I see the attraction and I agree.  

Wow. I think you are really lucky man right now. The engine is really beauty.

Now that's a really handsome loco!

Hey Buddy very very nice, 

muffin and canoli are the best. 

Its a bowling bag ball !!!! 

Alex 

Love the paint and lettering! Let us know how she runs.

I am currently running one of these decorated for SP in Tiger Stripes.  Really love the look of these engines.

Rolland

Love the colors. Very cool! 

Are those 'Hawkeye' colors!!!   I thought Monon was an Indiana schools celebrant!?.....e.g., Purdue 'Boilermakers'....GOLD & Black!!

Just kidding, of course!  

Looking VERY good!

KD (PU '66)

No, these are "Hawkeye" colors:

And, up and down the Monon everything is fine 'cause the Monon is a rootin', tootin' Hoosier Line!

BlueLine,

  Got to admit a seriously cool engine and color scheme, let us know how she runs!

PCRR/Dave

Gorgeous engine!  I have been sorely tempted...

Ben,

Beautiful diesel but, what exactly is a "Hoosier?"

Scrappy

Very sharp, enjoy.

Peter

Scrapiron Scher posted:

Ben,

Beautiful diesel but, what exactly is a "Hoosier?"

Scrappy

It was one of the best movies ever made  LOL

Scrapiron Scher posted:

Ben,

Beautiful diesel but, what exactly is a "Hoosier?"

Scrappy

Hoosier = an Indiana resident.  No one is quite sure what the origin of the word Hoosier is, but the Monon was located almost completely within the state of Indiana, so earned the nickname The Hoosier Line.

From Wikipedia

Hoosier /ˈhuːʒər/ is the official demonym for a resident of the U.S. state of Indiana. The origin of the term remains a matter of debate within the state,^[1] but "Hoosier" was in general use by the 1840s,^[2] having been popularized by Richmond resident John Finley's 1833^[2] poem "The Hoosier's Nest". Anyone born in Indiana or a resident at the time is considered to be a Hoosier.^[3] Indiana adopted the nickname "The Hoosier State" more than 150 years ago.^[1]

Humorous folk etymologies for the term "hoosier" have a long history, as recounted by Dunn in The Word Hoosier.

One account traces the word to the necessary caution of approaching houses on the frontier. In order to avoid being shot, a traveler would call out from afar to let themselves be known. The inhabitants of the cabin would then reply "Who's here?" which – in the Appalachian English of the early settlers – slurred into "Who'sh 'ere?" and thence into "Hoosier?" A variant of this account had the Indiana pioneers calling out "Who'sh 'ere?" as a general greeting and warning when hearing someone in the bushes and tall grass, to avoid shooting a relative or friend in error.^[11]

The poet James Whitcomb Riley facetiously suggested that the fierce brawling that took place in Indiana involved enough biting that the expression "Whose ear?" became notable. This arose from or inspired the story of two 19th-century French immigrants brawling in a tavern in the foothills of southern Indiana. One was cut and a third Frenchman walked in to see an ear on the dirt floor of the tavern, prompting him to slur out "Whosh ear?"^[12]

I like the one with the brawling French immigrants the best !!

I bet Jim Barrett will get one.

Marty Fitzhenry posted:

I bet Jim Barrett will get one.

Is he a French immigrant

What happened to ERIE?

PAUL ROMANO posted:

What happened to ERIE?

Erie and Monon ran side by side   Always liked both

Looks great, hope to see it running soon.

I, too, think that's a great looking engine. By the way, just to the left of the Monon and Erie engines exiting the yard, what is that thing that looks like an abbreviated pipeline?

Jim Brenner posted:

I, too, think that's a great looking engine. By the way, just to the left of the Monon and Erie engines exiting the yard, what is that thing that looks like an abbreviated pipeline?

Not really sure but I would guess its one of two things   Air pipe to activate switches if they are air motors ( which I doubt ) or the remnants of the original manual throws  The switch towers used long handles that pulled wires through a pipe that went out to a switch    Probably left over after they went to electric switch motors

Conduit for switch cables ... That makes sense. Might be something to model.

Thank you.

Jim Brenner posted:

Conduit for switch cables ... That makes sense. Might be something to model.

Thank you.

I don't think so, as all those turnouts are powered, i.e. either electric motors or air powered "switch machines". 

Well, I find it hard to believe that anyone in the US isn't familiar with the term "Hoosier" (I never saw the movie; don't care about basketball).

From the Olde Joke Department:

Of course, we all know that the well-known "Worcestershire sauce" was named by a Texan. An oil man from (pick your favorite Texas city) was staying in London, and when served his roast beef dinner, the waiter also put a bottle of a dark sauce on his table. He looked at it, pointed, and said, in his best Texican accent: "What's this here sauce?"

I said that it was old.

I am from neither Indiana nor Texas, but there you have it.

Nice looking locomotive, Ben!  Have fun with it!  (....looking away now so I'm not tempted....)

Hot Water posted:

Jim Brenner posted:

Conduit for switch cables ... That makes sense. Might be something to model.

Thank you.

I don't think so, as all those turnouts are powered, i.e. either electric motors or air powered "switch machines". 

Nope.  There's not a switch motor in sight.

Those are mechanical linkages used to throw switches and interlocking signals. 

Hence the name: Mechanical Interlocking.  This video should give some idea.

Rusty

Yo Bennie

Nice pick up, Enjoy it

Rusty Traque posted:

Hot Water posted:

Jim Brenner posted:

Conduit for switch cables ... That makes sense. Might be something to model.

Thank you.

I don't think so, as all those turnouts are powered, i.e. either electric motors or air powered "switch machines". 

Nope.  There's not a switch motor in sight.

I was referring to the two photos of LaSale Street Station (the Monon and the Erie-Lackawanna) where those turnouts are DEFINITELY powered! 

Those are mechanical linkages used to throw switches and interlocking signals. 

Hence the name: Mechanical Interlocking.  This video should give some idea.

True, but that does NOT apply to the two photos of the Moon & Erie-Lackawanna trains departing LaSale Street Station.

 

Rusty

D500,

I see you are in Alabama. Is there a Crimson Tide and, if so, from whence does it emanate?

Scrapiron 

I really think its a leftover from a mechanical linkage as it just ends in mid air  If it was air powered switch there would be an elbow and a pipe going down.  As that is the only one I suspect that they were in the process of removing them but just didnt do that one yet

Congrats Ben, it's a good looking switcher!

Paul

Looking at it again there is an elbow so it probably is an air line going to the switch machine

I think the pipe may be a steam line , ground air line... maybe even water.    I've never heard of a switch controlled by air . (outside of our model stuff) 

They had air operated switches in Los Angeles Union Passenger Terminal.

The whole pipe moves to throw the switch. No wires.

Number 90 posted:

They had air operated switches in Los Angeles Union Passenger Terminal.

There you go. Thanks  Tom    . 

Gregg posted:

 

I think the pipe may be a steam line , ground air line... maybe even water.    I've never heard of a switch controlled by air . (outside of our model stuff) 

There are plenty of air operated switches  New York city transit has hundreds of them  Here is a video of a pneumatic switch in operation

Gregg posted:

I think the pipe may be a steam line , ground air line... maybe even water.    I've never heard of a switch controlled by air . (outside of our model stuff) 

No. NOT a steam line nor a what line. Remember that the photo is in Chicago. That line is WAY too small for steam, nor is it insulated for either steam or water.

Just because you never heard of air operated switch machines, does NOT mean they didn't exist. As Number90 stated, LAUPT had ALL air powered switch machines, plus the DL&W had ALL air powered switch machines in Hoboken Terminal, Grove Street Tower, and Summit Tower, to name just a very few on the DL&W.

Well thanks for the update ...  Never too old to learn something new about railroading.  Who said they didn't exist. I didn't . I just said I've never heard of one.

Ever see one on the main line outside of a terminal? OK what is the white pipe thingy?

No mention of Air switches in any rule book  I've run across.

Anyway . . . back to our topic . . . two thumbs up to Mr. Muffin for making Monon diesels available.  I'll bet that Ben's H10-44 is a good runner and that F-M prime mover sound is very soothing.  I have an old PS-1 MTH Santa Fe H10-44, that Chuck Sartor modified for me with a PS-2 kit, that is a really good engine, but the latest release should be even better.  Enjoy it, Ben.

Chicago, Indianapolis, and Louisville (reporting mark: CIL  and then later MON - Monon) engine colors were based on the school colors of universities along their lines.  The freight black and gold -- DePauw University in Greencastle, Indiana (by coincidence, also Purdue's colors).  The passenger red and grey - Wabash College in Crawfordsville, Indiana (colors are similar to Indiana University, but not the same).  The "Monon Bell" is the trophy for the football game between DePauw and Wabash.

BTW - beautiful engine. If I wasn't a steam era person, I'd probably get one.

JOHN g from the raritan valley high raiders modeled the pipes on his modules.  Look great. Here are some pics

They're rugged little buggers.  So much more unusual than a common NW2 or S2.  My early MTH 10-44 ( only horn and bell equipped ) recently received Legacy electronics .  It has now become a viable switcher around the storage tracks on the layout, able to haul anything up the unreasonable grade out of the yard.  I just spent 2 hours doing exactly that.

Bruce

Daughter goes to University of Indiana in Bloomington, the "Hoosiers" but she has nothing to do with football or basketball.

They still have the bicycle race, its some time in the spring. She has nothing to do with it.

Have gone to Mr. Muffins on the way back to Chicago. Have also passed thru West Lafayette, home of the Boilermakers. I take the back roads so that I can stay awake and see parts of the US I might not ever get to see again; truth be told, only so many decent ways from Bloomington, IN, to Park Ridge, IL. (There's a Bloomington in Illinois, home of Illinois State University and State Farm).

"D500,

I see you are in Alabama. Is there a Crimson Tide and, if so, from whence does it emanate?

Scrapiron" 

Mr Iron:

I stumbled across this thread again today, and I don't want to seem rude, so I shall answer by admitting that, though I am not only in Alabama, it's where I was born (Mobile) and have lived all my life (excusing a very brief stint in Winston-Salem NC), I do not care for football. There, I've said it. Don't tell anyone. I'm not even sure that it is legal to live here and not be a football fan. If anything, my sport of choice is baseball, and I don't follow that anymore, either. Go Yanks - believe it or not.

The "Crimson Tide" comes from the color of "Bama's" jerseys - red/maroon, and, I believe, and old radio broadcast from the 1930's(?), wherein the announcer described Alabama's line coming down the field "like a crimson tide". Or so I have heard.

The fact that here on the Gulf Coast there is sometimes a red plankton bloom out at sea that is often referred to as a "red tide" is not related to the "crimson tide", but it's funny, nonetheless.

Why Bama's team logo is an elephant is not known to me. Stomping and such, I suppose. 

# D500   as i clean up the spit take of coffee on my hawaiian shirt, " don't tell anyone....... not football fan..." roflmao... not bad for a train guy. Great humor sir. the best (<Salute>

They came out terrific - thanks to MTH.... Clyde at Stockyard Express custom ran an NKP too.... I only made 54... that was a mistake.... could've sold twice that.... 

I thought the rods moved also, looked like a lever of some type to change direction when they left the tower.

For those not familiar with air switches, look up the DA10 by us&s (or its modern equal the quick switch from AAA).   There is a modern version of this in many hump yards today on BNSF that would include Argentine ks, Galesburg il (until last year), bartow ca, gm yard (Oklahoma city), Flynn yard (Oklahoma City).  Also inflat yards such as Cicero Il and Barstow CA NX system (receiving departure yards).