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You could use the stop control without the station. The postwar (132-44) and prewar (115-14) part numbers are for the stop control device. You could just take it out of your existing station and put it somewhere convenient.

The 253 block signal is an essentially identical device. There are also various prewar signals such as the 82N or 99. You could also go with "weight" control via the 153C or more modern block control options utilizing relays/ electronics.

The operation of the stop control station is as follows:
Post 1 on the station goes to the middle rail outside of the insulated block (A or D on ZW) 
Post 2 to the contiguous outer rail (or U terminal).
Post 3 goes to the middle rail inside the insulated block.

Since the resistance wire and the lamp share a connection, I do not believe you can use ZW post B or C without rewiring the lamp.

edited 03/04/2018 for clarity and brevity

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Überstationmeister posted:

You could use the stop control (132-44 or 115-14) without the station, or the 253 block signal. There are also various prewar signals such as the 82N or 99. You could also go with "weight" control via the 153C or more modern block control options utilizing relays/ electronics.

Thanks.  Are the 132-44 and 115-14 Lionel products ?   The numbers sound like post-war products, are they ?

There are a lot of time controlled relay switches that will do the same thing. An isolated track section in combination with a timed will accomplish the same thing (that's exactly what those stop stations are). These are pretty simple to work with and readily available. Something like this would work, but please do your research as I haven't dug into the exact specs on this specific switch:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Timer...9:g:nVEAAOSws5Baf0-6

Glofkinator posted:

There are a lot of time controlled relay switches that will do the same thing. An isolated track section in combination with a timed will accomplish the same thing (that's exactly what those stop stations are). These are pretty simple to work with and readily available. Something like this would work, but please do your research as I haven't dug into the exact specs on this specific switch:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Timer...9:g:nVEAAOSws5Baf0-6

Thanks.  They look like a simple solution.  I take it they will operate on the low voltage we use ?

Dan Padova posted:

I have a 132 automatic stop station.  I don't have room on the layout for it so is there a device that I can use in place of the station ?

You answered your own question in your previous post.

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If your own suggested solution is too expensive, do an OGR search on the 132 and you'll find other threads showing alternatives using low-cost eBay relay/timer modules for under $10.

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So I wired the station into the track system this evening.  I placed the station in a temporary spot for now.  It works nicely.  However, the lamp inside only shines brightly when the train is stopped in the controlled block.  Otherwise it dims to a barely visible glow.    

Power for my railroad is a post-war ZW.  Power to the track is post "D".  Power to the lamp is post "B" because that's what I have designated as power for lights on the layout.

Überstationmeister posted:

Make sure post 1 on the station goes to the middle rail outside of the insulated block (or post D) and post 2 to the contiguous outer rail (or U terminal). Post 3 goes to the middle rail inside the insulated block.

Since the resistance wire and the lamp share a connection, I do not believe you can use post B without rewiring the lamp.

I thought something like that.  I may just install a separate lighting circuit.  

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