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I'm gonna keep it small this time around, since much of what I want has been made already, including by Lionel.

  • B36-7's with LEGACY, kinematic pilots, Kadee mounts, and road specific details
  • GE Arrow 3 Rail Commuter Cars with LEGACY, kinematic pilots, Kadee mounts, and road specific details (specifically the NJ Transit cars)
  • Scale road-railers (maybe use the Weaver Models tooling?)

Id like to see some Illinois Central (Panama Limited or City of New Orleans) decorated 21 inch cars to complement the E6 engines from two years ago. Kind of like Ron above, the engines have been made, but not the cars to pull behind them. Same is true for many of the Sunset 3rd Rail E6's from a few years ago. Lots of great E6 liveries, but unless you are running Sant Fe or a few selected others, we have no RTR passenger cars for many of the engines produced.

Charlie

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-Reading Car # 15 (either clerestory or balloon roof) to match the recent Reading passenger cars

-Rutland "Route of the Whippet" caboose, in boxcar red/brown, using the tooling of the recent NYC video cabooses (doesn't even need the video component)

-Upgrade kit to convert older Lionchief/Lionchief Plus locomotives to give the ability to run these engines with Legacy.

Great ideas everyone, how about offering some 0-4-0 Steamers with slope back tenders scale switcher, in several road names,  like the older post war/prewar 1656/1615 models. I’d like it to have a smoking whistle and the normal Legacy dynamics. I’ve wanted one of these for years. I would like it wired from the tender track pick ups through the locomotive track pick ups so it would run through all turnouts. It could be a brass hybrid model, just a cool feature rich little Shifter Steamer. Thanks for listening. Merry Christmas Everyone.

@MikeH posted:

Unfortunately, the MSRP on a Lionel 4-car set would probably be $800

I agree with you Mike, but just for perspective, $200 a car is still the entry level price point for RTR scale passenger cars today. The next level up would be the Golden Gate Depot offerings at $300.00 per car. Are the GGD cars $100.00 better? that is up to the buyer. Some will say yes and some will say no, but you can bet that what ever the price is now/today, will be more the next time anything is announced due to the rising cost of production.

Obviously E-*** pricing and history is a pretty good indicator of secondary market value and it is pretty clear that engines/rolling stock that were "over priced" only a few years ago are now reselling for full list and more?

Seems kind of funny, what was "too much" a few years ago is now Ok... go figure.

So yes, $200 is a lot of money now for some folks, but I predict in a few years, $200 cars will be cheap.

It's all perspective.

Charlie

Did Lionel post a  21" GN Empire Builder  Great Dome car??

I don't think so, unless I missed it.  They do have the tooling, though, and with a few minor modifications it would be spot on.  Lionel did catalog an Empire Builder short dome car this year.

It would be great to see a reasonably accurate scale 1956 Empire Builder.  K-Line made one more than 15 years ago, but it was missing a couple of car types, and the window arrangements for some of the cars were a bit off.  Golden Gate Depot made an Empire Builder set just a few years ago, but it was the 1947 version with the dome cars added, which is not at all accurate.  By the time the dome cars were added in 1956, the other cars had all been replaced since 1947.  Maybe Lionel will make it somewhat more accurate for the train with the domes?  Maybe GGD will reissue an accurate version someday?

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LionScale O scale

ROCK ISLAND and THE ROCK blue ACF CENTER FLOW 5250 cu. ft., 4-bay covered hopper sets

The Rock Island had a small number of ACF CENTER FLOW 5250 cu. ft., 4-bay covered hoppers

Some of them were in the original paint scheme to the end of THE ROCK

Some of them were repainted in the blue THE ROCK scheme in the late 1970's.

There needs to be an ACCURATELY numbered and printed version of all of them produced in 2 sets.

ROCK 13978-13987

Built in 1967

Andrew

Falcon Service

LionScale O scale

ACF Center Flow 3560 cu. ft. 3-bay covered hoppers

C&O Chesapeake & Ohio original paint scheme

ARR ALASKA RAILROAD

DM&IR Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range

DM  Detroit & Mackinac reporting marks on the Duluth, Missabe & iron Range covered hoppers that have the body and graphics in a weathered or worn appearance.

ICG ILLINOIS CENTRAL GULF

These ACF CENTER FLOW covered hoppers need to be equipped with the high-end roller bearing trucks



Andrew

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For me I have been loving a lot of what has been offered The last 3-4 years.

036 curve rated CN diesel legacy and would love to see more like the H10. Tons of features that can navigate 036 curves.  Would they / could they fit cylinder steam and whistle/dynamo steam in a 036 rated locomotive?  May creep to vision line but would like to try and get those features in a 036 locomotive.  Like maybe a USRA Pacific.  

@Sparty1225 posted:

For me I have been loving a lot of what has been offered The last 3-4 years.

036 curve rated CN diesel legacy and would love to see more like the H10. Tons of features that can navigate 036 curves.  Would they / could they fit cylinder steam and whistle/dynamo steam in a 036 rated locomotive?  May creep to vision line but would like to try and get those features in a 036 locomotive.  Like maybe a USRA Pacific.  

I love the bells and whistles and my biggest curve is O-36.  I'll second introducing more of the cool new smoke/steam features in smaller-radius engines, especially steam coming out down near the wheels!

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@trainbob posted:

Oneonta what did you not like about the custom run yellow jacket Lehigh Valley C-420 from Mr Muffins. While we are at it how about a snow bird C-630

Bob,

No comment on the offering other then the fact that custom runs tend to be small quantities, if it is a catalog item the quantity and distribution could be greater. Lionel did an LV yellow jacket many years ago but it was not Legacy. Agree on the C-630, either red or snowbird......I missed the opportunity when Atlas O offered these.   

LionScale O scale 50' box cars with Roller bearing trucks

Sabine River & Northern 50' box cars built in 1978

SRN  5300-5399

Central Vermont 50' box cars built in 1979

CV 600125-600199

Grand Trunk Western 50' box cars built in 1974

In the original 1974 paint scheme and lettering applied by Berwick Forge & Foundry

GTW 309300-309399

MARINETTE, TOMAHAWK & WESTERN 50' box cars built in 1978

http://canadianfreightcargalle...?i=mtw4512&o=mtw

MTW 4400-4599



Andrew

The 1940's era A.A.R. double-door 50' boxcars with opening end doors for ramp loading still have not been produced in the 1950's and 1960's paint schemes of the GRAND TRUNK WESTERN.

GTW 591500 series in the 1950's scheme

https://searcharchives.vancouv...rn-rly-boxcar-591598

GTW 591200 series in the 1960's scheme

https://searcharchives.vancouv...estern-boxcar-591236

Those would match the previously produced GTW diesel locomotives and freight cars.



Andrew

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Considering that I'm sure Lionel has already long since worked out what they will put in their 2021 offerings, perhaps this thread would be better named "Lionel 2022 Catalog Wishlist"

Comparatively "easy" things to do that wouldn't likely require new tooling:

- Larger sizes of manual Fastrack switches (up to O-72).  The command are fantastic but there are some spots on the layout I may not use so often where manual would be fine (and my wallet would be finer).

- ATSF bookend scheme GP30, SD40, and/or SD45

- B&O GP30 (hasn't been made since TMCC era)

- B&O F units in passenger colors (also haven't been made since TMCC)

"New" items that may require more work/tooling:

- New sound sets for the EMD diesels (this one-size-fits-all sound set is getting a bit old)

- F45/FP45: could be done in ATSF warbonnet, ATSF blue and yellow, ATSF bookend, Montana Rail Link, Milwaukee Road, Great Northern blue, Burlington Northern, and Wisconsin Central, as far as I can think.  If modular tooling were used with a few tweaks especially to the front pilot, Amtrak SDP40F's could be made from the basic tooling too.)

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