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@stangtrain posted:

Many enjoyable hours were spent at the New Hope train station with my grandchildren when we lived in Washington Crossing PA! After watching the train leave the station, we sometimes walked down the street to Dunkin Donuts for a treat and by the time we finished and walked back up the hill to the station, we heard the horn off in the distance and waited for the train to return from it's trip through beautiful Bucks County! The train would return with the locomotive in front but backwards (i.e. long hood forward) as they had no way to turn it around. Same procedure when steam engine #40 was running. What an almost alive little beast that engine is, maybe as others stated above, Lionel may decorate a future locomotive like this:

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Bowman's Tower, Point Pleasant Canoes, Bucks County Playhouse.  Hey, how about the Bucks County Drive-in...

@CarGuyZM10 posted:

According to the Reading Tech website, these cars were 72' 5" long.  The cafe cars were 82' 10" long.

Yep, I stand corrected again.  I realized after my post that the O-B coaches are the New Haven rather than Reading.  I do know CNJ used 72 ft shorties, still I though the Reading were longer, but no.  I should have looked at my own files first -- sorry.

Tom Stoltz

in Maine



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@Tom Stoltz posted:

Yep, I stand corrected again.  I realized after my post that the O-B coaches are the New Haven rather than Reading.  I do know CNJ used 72 ft shorties, still I though the Reading were longer, but no.  I should have looked at my own files first -- sorry.

Tom Stoltz

in Maine



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Thanks for looking into this.  I'm glad the Lionel models are the right length.

Hey Tom,

I thought I'd let you in on the bridge over the Aquatong Creek near Mechanic St. A silent film was done, supposedly,  on the "Paulines Trestle" of the "Perils of Pauline"silent movie a long time ago. Yeah hard to believe! There was an actress named Pearl White that played Pauline in the silent movie. Of course, this is rumored and there seems to be not much proof of the claim. I think the name "Paulines Trestle" stuck as an attraction for the railroad, which back in the early years was the Reading. I worked there as a Fireman on #40 (great little consolidation), conductor on 2198 GP30, & 7087, which was scrapped just recently.

I worked on Paulines Trestle with the Foreman- Eric Hessler and three other guy's one day changing out ties that NEEDED replacing, especially after the NRA checked the trestle. It was a succeccful event given the fact that 25-30 ft. below was the creek with a lot of major sized rocks in the water. To this day I can't figure out how they got 614,Ross Rolands 4-8-4 C&O Greenbriar across that bridge to rebuild it years ago in the engine house. That trestle has a tight curve!

      Steam Forever

             John

Hey Tom,

I thought I'd let you in on the bridge over the Aquatong Creek near Mechanic St. A silent film was done, supposedly,  on the "Paulines Trestle" of the "Perils of Pauline"silent movie a long time ago. Yeah hard to believe! There was an actress named Pearl White that played Pauline in the silent movie. Of course, this is rumored and there seems to be not much proof of the claim. I think the name "Paulines Trestle" stuck as an attraction for the railroad, which back in the early years was the Reading. I worked there as a Fireman on #40 (great little consolidation), conductor on 2198 GP30, & 7087, which was scrapped just recently.

I worked on Paulines Trestle with the Foreman- Eric Hessler and three other guy's one day changing out ties that NEEDED replacing, especially after the NRA checked the trestle. It was a succeccful event given the fact that 25-30 ft. below was the creek with a lot of major sized rocks in the water. To this day I can't figure out how they got 614,Ross Rolands 4-8-4 C&O Greenbriar across that bridge to rebuild it years ago in the engine house. That trestle has a tight curve!

      Steam Forever

             John

John, thank you for the info about ‘’Pauline”.  According to Wikipedia, she was born Pearl Fay White and does indeed appear in the film serial, The Perils of Pauline, in 1914.  Wikipedia also has a link to an hour and a half of the serial.  The opening credits state she is the star.  I intend to watch the whole thing hoping to get a glimpse of the trestle… too cool!

Really neat you had a chance to actually work on the trestle and to ‘play’ with #40.  I do remember the sharp curve.  I also thought about the questions a lot of folks here have about how sharp a radius the Lionel engine will negotiate.  The video JohnB sent shows curves on the actual railroad I thought were incredibly tight.  Really great for a train layout.

My sister did summer stock at The Buck’s County Playhouse several different years in the late ‘50s & early ‘60s.  New Hope had not yet ‘come to life’ back then.  My sister had an apartment on Mechanics St which is why I remember it.

Sorry to get homesick on you,

Tom Stoltz

In Maine

These New Hope videos keep popping up on my YouTube this one is from the 1980s. There are 4 scenes in the video with about 20 seconds of a black screen between each scene. Pay attention to the second scene where a young crewman exits the cab when the train stops........what the heck is he doing????? I have my guess but let me know what you think.

 

Hey John B,

Thanks for that video! I know both guy's in the cab of 40. The engineer is Frank Vopasek, who I fired for if our schedules met on the scheduled day. Frank & I keep in touch still since I'm in an "O" gauge Moduler group, The Raritan Valley Hi-Railers, with several other guy's. We started doing a Christmas show in Little Ferry N.J. and Frank  was Santa Clause. Of course it was pre Covid and the town Mayor wants us to come back when things get better. Frank is a great engineer of over 30 yrs. time. The other guy is Mike Muldowney, who is a great Fireman. Mike is a lot younger than myself and taught me the trade along with other guy's.

Really miss those days!

@JohnB posted:

These New Hope videos keep popping up on my YouTube this one is from the 1980s. There are 4 scenes in the video with about 20 seconds of a black screen between each scene. Pay attention to the second scene where a young crewman exits the cab when the train stops........what the heck is he doing????? I have my guess but let me know what you think.

 

My guess would be bees, though it is hard to imagine a nest where he seems to get involved...

Tom Stoltz

in Maine

@Tom Stoltz posted:

Groovy... that is the train Lionel should have modeled.

Tom Stoltz

in Maine

Tom,

    They did not offer Consolidations in this catalog, they did offer GP30s so it was a natural choice to do the New Hope set using a diesel. I do think if this set sells well the next time they run Consolidations (the generic ones not PRR) a New Hope #40 will be one of them. They can even do the passenger cars in a 4 car set or 2 2car sets for separate sale.

JohnB

@SGP posted:

It would be great to see a model of #40 someday. The recent "generic" consolidations used the same valve gear from Southern Pacific 2-8-0 which would be incorrect for #40. Hopefully if #40, or #60 in New Jersey, was ever offered it would have the correct valve gear for that locomotive.

SGP,

   We are talking 3 rail O gauge trains so I would be happy with what I could get. Yes the same valve gear would be great but I don’t think Lionel or any other manufacturer would go through all of that work to sell maybe 500 to 1000 engines. I think with the correct headlight placement the SP Consolidation would make for a quite reasonable #40:

     http://catalogs.lionel.com/15c2/html5/

Not trying to start a debate or anything but here is another #40 video in the snow this time:

Getting back to my original question about the upcoming SKU # 2122160, New Hope Ivyland set:  The engine is a GP30, and the 4 long coaches have Kinematic couplers, with an 054 curve stated minimum:

My oval includes mostly 054 curves.  However, there is one unique partial curve that has a single section of 031 curve, which is immediately preceded by 3 straight sections (one of which is the straight leg of an 022 switch), and immediately followed by 1 054 curve, 1 straight section, and 2 more 054 sections. (The train would never be sent through the 022 switch curved section).

When the front axle of the coach encounters the single 031 curve, the rear axle of that coach is still on a straight section. When two coupled coaches are on the 031, the other end of each coach would each be on a straight section.

Would the couplers rotate enough if only one part of the coach was on the 031?  Some coach designs  have an obstruction near one or both axles that could be problematic.  Would the Kinematic couplers extend enough so that the two coupled cars wouldn't hit each other when together on the 031 curve?

Unfortunately, there's no room to change out the 031 curve for an 054.

Thanks guys.

With all the concerns about whether this set will run on certain size curves along with concerns over the accuracy of its coaches,, MY CONCERN is if the folks with the concerns I mentioned didn't preorder this set and so Lionel will cancel it because there weren't enough pre-orders. I did preorder mine from Charless Ro who had a Great preorder price for it. Keeping my fingers crossed it will be made and we will see it in time for Christmas 2021.

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