Lionel Orbitor Space set

I still remember. Mine works like a clock now. Never had trouble with the Santa Fe's though.
Are you experiencing trouble??

I'm thinking about picking up the set and was wondering what the issues are. Does anyone know? Thanks!

Paul

There was a long thread about the problems of this engine a while back. See if you can find it.

The set is great. You wont be disapointed. There were a few issues with the pullmor motor grinding, but only on a few sets. If the set you purchase happens to make alot of noise, and not run smooth. Email me and/or Chuck Sartor and we will help you.

Thanks Mark for taking the time.

Paul

Chuck or Mark I need your help with this set. First of all the motor growls and it doesn't seem to run very smoothly like the rest of the CC sets. Second the horn will only blow if the train is sitting idle not if it is moving.Thanks.

Brad, what kind of transformer are you using? I had horn and bell problems with Lionel conventional classics using MTH transformers. If you use a new ZW, or a postwar transformer, that should make it work. Just for fun, switch the wires on the lockon, or at the transformer, if that is easier.

Most likely the armature is binding on the brushplate. Install a small ball bearing (I have them if you can't find locally) in the armature brushplate. This will force the armature down and keep it from bouncing and hitting the brushplate. Be sure the factory lubed the gears and both ends of the armature shaft. For the horn, If you are using a postwar transformer, only push the button or lever half-way.

Chuck if you have the ball bearing and it is a reasonably easy installation I would like to buy one from you. I have a Z4000 transformer, but I've installed Lionel sound activation buttons to make my other CC sets work, but this one doesn't respond to the button either.Thanks.

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Most likely the armature is binding on the brushplate. Install a small ball bearing (I have them if you can't find locally) in the armature brushplate. This will force the armature down and keep it from bouncing and hitting the brushplate. Be sure the factory lubed the gears and both ends of the armature shaft. For the horn, If you are using a postwar transformer, only push the button or lever half-way.

Chuck, I did the opposite, I put the ball bearing in the bottom, added the washer to the top of the armature, and added washers to the motor mounts, and mine works great now

You are correct Mark, some need the ball bearing on the top, some on the bottom.
Funny, these are massed produced and should run all the same! I'll explain it to him.
Brad, they could have wired the horn incorrectly, try reversing the leads to the track on this one engine. Does the bell work?

Chuck the bell works. Right now I'm suspecting the Lionel Sound Activation button may be the culprit.

Did Lionel ever acknowledge what the problem was with the motors?