Lionel's "High Torque Pittman Motor"?

Essentially, this is the same heavy duty can motors used by all manufacturers, from Weaver to MTH, in top of the line engines for best power, no noise, and no maintenance. This is just the Lionel way of making it sound larger than life.

Oh, I was told this set had a bad running engine by a forum member.

Then, when I saw that motor name I began to wonder.

Thanks for the clarification!

The Pittman motors have a nice feature, you can actually repair them!  Most can motors are just a sealed can, when they go bad, you toss them.

That engine might still be bad, the electric motor might be fine, but the gearing messed up. Keep on investigating.

Pitman offers a very large array of "can" motors.   Those ordered with "rare earth" magnets have significantly higher torque than lower priced Pittman's with the same physical dimensions and voltage specs.  The various models come in many different lengths, diameters, bearings (solid vs. ball), single shaft or double, and voltage ratings.  Bottom line - Pittman motors are not all created equal. 

Ed 

Unreal....

Why Lionel cant just stick with one type of Pullmor motor and one can motor is beyond me.

You never know what you are going to get.

If it was not for the fact that there are some products Lionel offers that MTH does not, I would have just stuck with MTH.

As I've stated before chipset, Lionels "Pullmor" motor is their old postwar style motor that was the standard before the develpoment of the "can motor" to power model trains.

Lionel has offered "Pullmor" powered locos in recent years to appeal to the folks who remember trains operating that way as a kid.

"Pullmor" motors are Lionels "old fashioned style motor thats big, noisy, runs hot, eats gobs of electricity, and is extremely sensative to load changes such as inclines and curves and slow speed crawls ( as we know them today) are basically unattainable.

"Can motors" are the more modern way to power trains in the last 15 years. They are just as powerfull, run cooler, use way less electricity and run virtually silent, along with allow a model train to achivev the prototypical slow speed crawls of a locomotive departing or switching.

 MTH never used "Pullmors" because they are a "Lionel" thing. I'm betting Mike doesn't care for their operating characteristic either.

Can motors are made by several different  "electronic motor manufacturers".

I would guess Lionel, MTH, select particular can motor brands based on specifications and possibly price.

There really isn't a bad "can motor" Pittman, Buhler, and now Canon are all brands Lionel has used or is using. They all run well and observing operation of locomotives equipped with each. there really is no descernable diffence.

I believe Rich stated that the Canon motors Lionel is using these days are superior to the Pittmans. Again, I don't think you could tell by comparing loco operation.

Lionel "touted" the Pittman brand can motor back in the early 2000's because some time prior to 2000, Lionel locos were not offered with any "can motors". It was a "new" thing.

Lionel also flubbed some product descriptions in early 2000 as well. I.e. the CC Niagra was advertised as having a "Pullmor" motor when it infact came with a can motor.

Any (non postwar/ classics) scale offering 2000 to date will have a can motor.

Great info, thanks Rick.

Here it is.  Looks like the standard pittman used.  G

What is a "rare earth" magnet?

Joe 

You don't find it often.

A description: Rare Earth Magnet

Here's one of my favorite places to buy magnets: K&J Magnetics

These should answer questions about types of magnets.