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Anybody want 3rd rail Alco FA’s in NdeM for the Aztec Eagle? With all the heavyweights being offered in NdeM these might be great motive power https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth28636/ They are seen here.

I’d like it. 😜
I earlier mentioned this / proposed in some forum (I can’t remember where) and the response was deafening crickets. Perhaps it was premature for a NdeM diesel and especially in a slow to mature Alco FA offering.
Things change. There’s growing NdeM interest. I’d Still like to see !!! Worth an email to Scott ….. but it may be too late to add another diesel.🫢
The number on the pic is correct and is FA2 (as documented by Wikipedia).  It would be nice to have other views and some color  pix.
Here’s some More info for DJ’s link (streamlinermemories.info) 8E45A0A8-E12D-4572-B51B-87126CF04543
NdeM fans - Email Scott and Ask him can he add this. 🫣😜😉

Cheers 🙂

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@TrainBub posted:

I’d like it. 😜
I earlier mentioned this / proposed in some forum (I can’t remember where) and the response was deafening crickets. Perhaps it was premature for a NdeM diesel and especially in a slow to mature Alco FA offering.
Things change. There’s growing NdeM interest. I’d Still like to see !!! Worth an email to Scott ….. but it may be too late to add another diesel.🫢
The number on the pic is correct and is FA2 (as documented by Wikipedia).  It would be nice to have other views and some color  pix.
Here’s some More info for DJ’s link (streamlinermemories.info) 8E45A0A8-E12D-4572-B51B-87126CF04543
NdeM fans - Email Scott and Ask him can he add this. 🫣😜😉

Cheers 🙂

after receiving the Eagle & now we’re getting heavyweights. We need some motive power! I’m sure I’m not the only one that missed both F3 boats. 🙃 hopefully it’s not too late, but I know these are going into production soon. It’s a long shot but, fingers crossed.

after receiving the Eagle & now we’re getting heavyweights. We need some motive power! I’m sure I’m not the only one that missed both F3 boats. 🙃 hopefully it’s not too late, but I know these are going into production soon. It’s a long shot but, fingers crossed.

Just talked with Scott. Adding NdeM Looks promising !!!  Your color photos Very Helpful !!!!!!! 😜

Thank You …. Stay tuned  !!! 😉 And remember - Numbers Count !!!!!!!  Spread  the word !!!  
Cheers 😉

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I can't do both paint schemes but would definitely do one of them. I much prefer the Pullman Green over the red and black, but I would buy either one.

On a slight unrelated note; I'd like to see a train of the Swiss streamlined coaches. Between the Superliners and heavyweights it would have to be a couple years away, but it would be cool.

@seank941 posted:

Does anyone know how NdeM ran the Alco units on their passenger trains? Was it A-B-A or A-B, or a different configuration? I'm trying to find out before I place my reservations.

The Few pix I’ve seen show either a single “A” or what appears to be an “AB”. If you like “ABA”, do that. You can always have 2 trains - one “AB” and a second “A”.  
Look at this list from Wikipedia for NdeM FA2. (I had to patch this together) GGD is doing the FA2 for NFM.
17606480-2390-4119-BE3E-D5CFE1A0EF54   
6FF0C44C-7545-4E27-A7FC-EBC0B96ACF03
That’s a lot of “B” units. There’s even the possibility of “ABB” being run.
Looks like Lots of Possibilities !!!!
Have Fun - Your Way 😉

Cheers 🙂

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I went slightly nuts on E7’s 2 T&P, 2 NYC beauty queens, 1 B&O

Yah me too. It’s tough with MP, T&P, AND Jenks all at once !!! 🫢😳    
I’m in for MP AB, MP JENKS A, T&P A, (and for good measure a Frisco Meteor). That’s it for now because waiting in the Q is the Alco FA with MP, Frisco, and NdeM. 😮🫣  It’s a case of “be careful of what you wish for” !!!!!!!! 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

Cheers 😉

@TrainBub posted:

Well, Scott had posted a newsy note in a new thread about What’s coming and When !!!  E7s heading into production, reservations closing APRIL 15 !!!  😜
Step Up Time folks for those MP, T&P    units !!!!!    😜🙂😉

Don’t ignore those JENKS Units either ……. Because ……in the same note he Announces a Future Run of MP JENKS Cars AND some Additional NEW cars for the Texas Eagle that were not done in Run 1 !!!!!!! Can’t have those Jenks diesels without cars to go with them !!!!!!!!! 😮🫢    😉😉  

But wait - there’s more.  

Plastic Heavyweights are being Q’d for a new run. MP and T&P will be in the mix. Let Scott know which cars you’ll want to see. I’d like to see included MP and TP modernized baggage cars (think mail / express / secondary trains) and coaches for sure.

Lots coming down the pike !!!!!!  
Cheers 🙂😜😉

Hi. Many thanks for this post. Can you tell us where the post is please? I've tried searching for it without success.  Steve

Last minute E7 reservation guidance.
MP Has “B” units, T&P NO “B” units

Know this for Future E8 offering    
Neither had E8 “B” units.

Last chance for “B” units.

Eagle and Jenks paint schemes frequently were seen mixed together. IMO this makes for an interesting diverse consist. Passenger cars with E and J paint were mixed too.

Cheers😉

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@Blue Streak posted:

Jonathan,

I look forward to seeing what numbers you pic for the Mopac and T&P. I ordered 10 units. 2 Mopac A-B, 2 T&P A-A, 1 T&P Jenks A, 2 MKT Tx Special A-A, 1 Frisco Meteor A, and because I bought the latest 1948 20th century set a year or so ago a NYC A-B to pull the cars. Glad the FA got pushed to next year as I am in for Mopac, Frisco and MKT.

I want to mix my Mopac/T&P E7's and E8's. And also Jenks with Eagle so I just don't want the same numbers. Another plug for Mopac 7012A-B.

Also, Trainbub I got your email of 7012. Is that from a book it looks familiar? I have several in books and see many online of 7012. Go 7012!!!!!!!

Joe

Hi Joe,    
The 7012 pic I sent you may or may not be published. It was provided to me by a friend in the MPHS to show me roof color definition. Bottom line - the roof is Eagle Blue and Eagle Roof Grey.  Often, the exhausts are / look dark. That is either shadows or soot. The pic shows the nature of the vents as it is a nose - on pic and you can see the vents from a cross sectional point of view.
Scott typically does multiple #s of engines. I believe it can be driven by the person that orders the largest number of a given diesels / road. MP and T&P had a Lot of units. Most MPs were AB #ed together - but there were some with no corresponding B #s. T&P had no B s. Then there’s the Jenks renumbering. Every engine got renumbered. T&P is pretty straightforward. MP …. Well, you’ll need a scorecard to “understand”.  The B #ing gets Wonky. A to B numbering doesn’t match except for one. It’s just the way it was done.  Their logic sure isn’t mine.😖

Hopefully, care will be taken to make sure an order doesn’t deliver the same engines just with different paint /numbers.
For example-  
7012, 7012B /Eagle paint = 21, 16B /Jenks. You won’t want these pairs of numbered diesels together —-> they are the same engines.

You can reference all this numbering in either  
Missouri Pacific Diesel Power by EuDaly, pg. 42 or  
The Missouri Pacific Lines in Color by Collias, pgs. 136,138.  
These are two Key Must Have MP, T&P reference books IMO.  

Cheers 😉

Trainbub,

You are totally right on the cab numbers. In my hurry to post and get back to work I had forgotten about the 1962 renumbers. I guess because this will really be my first repainted passenger engine - I try to stick to the 50's. In Steve Goen's book I see Jenks paint with original numbers, Eagle with new numbers, etc. I am sure that can be seen in many of my books if I took the time to look. It also Looks like it took a few years to complete paint & renumber. So the single digits will be fine 1-10. I plan on running these in the era of about 1962-1963. Also hope the Jenks cars can be bought as individuals so I can mix them with my Eagle paint. If I was not such a T&P fan I would not be adventuring out of my time era. Hey I did get 2 Mopac SD40-2's What the he__!

Joe

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