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Hello Everyone:

I will preface my question by saying I am not an electrical whiz; I know just enough to be dangerous.  I have a three-year-old MTH Operating Passenger Platform on a Lionel O-gauge layout that I operate off the switch that came with it.  It's supposed to operate on 12-14 volts, according to the instructions.  It worked fine until recently when the passengers will go up and disappear into the roof of the station using the switch, but they won't come back down.  The lights are on and work fine.  Could this indicate the Zippy switch controlling the downward movement is malfunctioning and should be replaced?  Or might it be some other problem?  Any suggestions on what to look for and how to fix it are appreciated.     

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Thanks for the reply, Jon.  Yes, it moves freely with the lever.  I should add that I have two controllers for this; one that came with the station and a second I purchased as a backup.  It does the same thing with both switches; the passengers will go up into the roof if I manually put them in the down position, but they don't respond when I flip the switch to make them come back down.

@Teeg posted:

...Could this indicate the Zippy switch controlling the downward movement is malfunctioning and should be replaced?  .

For anyone else stumbling upon this and wondering what Zippy switch is all about, there was this OGR thread and some links therein that describe the Zippy modification which should be in any recently purchased platform.  This modification used a different brand (Zippy) of sensor switches IN THE PLATFORM that allowed lower 12VAC track voltage to reliably flip the solenoids (passengers or freight).

As noted in above thread it can be a hassle to open up the platform.  So what you really want is for there to be a simple/fixable loose connector in the controller toggle switch or in the harness between the controller and the 4 connectors on the bottom of the platform (A B C D).  Following is a recycled photo from previous OGR thread:

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You can take the controller out of the equation by simply disconnecting the 2 wires at terminals B and C under the platform.  Then you can simulate the controller with a short wire momentarily connecting power to terminal B or terminal C to activate the alternating actions.  I used to know if "power" comes from A or D but it's no harm no foul to use the wrong one - nothing will happen on the wrong one.  It only take a few seconds to go thru the combinations (of course NEVER connect A to D which shorts the track voltage!)

Anyway, if the passengers go back down with one of the above combinations then you know it's an issue with the controller or the wiring from the controller. If passengers do NOT go back down then I figure you need to open up the platform...in which case you could get lucky and find a loose wire. Less lucky would be a defective Zippy lever switch or defective solenoid. A meter that measures Ohms would be handy if you reach this point.

Addendum:

I found this OGR thread that suggests you get power from terminal D.

So with track power applied to terminals A and D (which may already be connected from the controller), disconnect the controller wires going to B and C.

Then, with a short piece of wire, or even a paper clip, momentarily connect D to B...or momentarily connect D to C.  One should make passengers go up, other should make passengers go down.  This should isolate the problem.

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