A gentleman on the N&W forum brought this to our attention. An ex-N&W tender on a UP snowplow somewher in Wyoming. Would anyone have any more information on the tender?
I must say that they look like they were made for each other.
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Might have come from a Y class compound that were "forced" on both the UP and AT&SF railroads during WWII. The UP also was forced to take C&O 2-8-8-2 "Simple Simon" H7a locomotives during WWII, and upon the end of WWII, the UP scrapped the engines and sold most of those huge tenders to the SP, who converted them into oil fuel for AC-9 and some 2-10-2 locomotives.
Yeah, I'm sure it's from 1 of the 5 Y3's that went west after purchase by the UP. I think all were scrapped by them in 47'.
Yep, a tangible holdover from the WWII migration of surplus N&W power to power short western roads. What town is this in? Are there other rotary snowplows preserved in city parks? A search through steamloco.info won't turn these up as it is not a "locomotive".
Yes, I knew it was some Y class loco. I was hoping someone might know which number it came from and how it just happened to be mated to this particular plow. It is nice to know that this tender is still survives!
Hot Water posted:Might have come from a Y class compound that were "forced" on both the UP and AT&SF railroads during WWII. The UP also was forced to take C&O 2-8-8-2 "Simple Simon" H7a locomotives during WWII, and upon the end of WWII, the UP scrapped the engines and sold most of those huge tenders to the SP, who converted them into oil fuel for AC-9 and some 2-10-2 locomotives.
"Forced"? In WWII, there was no USRA as in WWI. Some idea of the War Production Board? I believe the ATSF and PRR got some N&W locomotives also.
645 posted:This is the age of Google - I searched with keywords "UP plow 900098 location" and came up with Hanna, Wyoming. Here's a link with more information on UP rotary snowplows although it does not go into any detail on 900098's tender:
That Utah Rails site is an excellent source for information about pretty much anything related to UP. You might contact Don Strack directly, and ask him about that former N&W tender.
Dominic Mazoch posted:Hot Water posted:Might have come from a Y class compound that were "forced" on both the UP and AT&SF railroads during WWII. The UP also was forced to take C&O 2-8-8-2 "Simple Simon" H7a locomotives during WWII, and upon the end of WWII, the UP scrapped the engines and sold most of those huge tenders to the SP, who converted them into oil fuel for AC-9 and some 2-10-2 locomotives.
"Forced"? In WWII, there was no USRA as in WWI. Some idea of the War Production Board? I believe the ATSF and PRR got some N&W locomotives also.
Yes,,,,,,,,,"forced"! The War Production Board had ultimate power over pretty much ALL manufacturing in the U.S.A. during WWII. For example; EMD was NOT allowed to manufacture ANY passenger locomotives, only freight FT models and the production volume on those was limited due to the U.S. Navy's requirement for LOTS of EMD 567 diesel engines. Even the steam locomotive manufacturers were NOT allowed to manufacture passenger locomotives, and ONLY two railroads were ALLOWED to purchase a few additional "specially designed" passenger steam locomotives with 80" diameter drive wheels for troop train movements to the west coast (AT&SF got additional 2900 class 4-8-4s and UP got additional FEF-4 class 4-8-4s).
Dominic Mazoch posted:Hot Water posted:Might have come from a Y class compound that were "forced" on both the UP and AT&SF railroads during WWII. The UP also was forced to take C&O 2-8-8-2 "Simple Simon" H7a locomotives during WWII, and upon the end of WWII, the UP scrapped the engines and sold most of those huge tenders to the SP, who converted them into oil fuel for AC-9 and some 2-10-2 locomotives.
"Forced"? In WWII, there was no USRA as in WWI. Some idea of the War Production Board? I believe the ATSF and PRR got some N&W locomotives also.
Santa Fe's 8 Y3's were used as helper locomotives at Raton Pass. After the war, 7 of the 8 were sold to the Virginian, the 8th was scrapped.
Rusty
645,
Thanks for the UtahRails site link!
I was able to find this on the UtahRails site and also one for the 074 which shows an ex-N&W tender. The drawing shows a rebuild date of 1949.
Bet the N&W and C&O steamers did not like the coal UP used!
