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I would like to see Lionel make a really nice Legacy Controlled Trolley Car, with Station Stop Announcements, and whatever other sounds that make it a fun to run people carrier.....Not TMCC like the trackmobiles, but a full functioning Trolley...This would be nice for those with tight curves and it should have directional lighting, swiveling pole, etc.....How about that for a want....

thank you (LIONEL) for agreeing on the Trolley Car, there are many neat street cars, one called Desire, so Lionel could produce several of these in different paint schemes...Add the people sitting and standing, neat announcements, all Legacy controlled....Yes to more F7's, SP Daylights, Sante Fe War Bonnets, The Niagara with all the steam effects, blow down, steam cylinder effect, etc, swinging bell. Also another fully equipped Hudson....The list goes on and on and on...They could re-introduce Legacy Budd Cars.....Wow..

Well I'm breaking my silence!  It's my opinion that Lionel will generate more sales if people know what to expect, and the people should know!

To start, what I've seen on the front cover of the catalog is a scale GgywkESIopicvD......  uhhg...ooofff,,,, pow! .....SMASH... ouch!!!  mmfffmmfmfmf....

 

......THIS IS LIONEL PRODUCT SECURITY...... WE HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO NEUTRALIZE THIS FORUM MEMBER TO PROTECT THE UNFINALIZED VERSION OF LIONEL PRODUCTS........ TRAINDIESEL WILL BE QUARANTINED AND RETURNED TO THIS FORUM UPON CATALOG RELEASE.....  WARNING!!.... CONTINUED GUESSING AND SPECULATING ON CATALOG CONTENTS WILL BE DELT WITH SWIFTLY...... RETURN TO YOUR NORMAL ACTIVITIES........

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Traindiesel posted:

Well I'm breaking my silence!  It's my opinion that Lionel will generate more sales if people know what to expect, and the people should know!

To start, what I've seen on the front cover of the catalog is a scale GgywkESIopicvD......  uhhg...ooofff,,,, pow! .....SMASH... ouch!!!  mmfffmmfmfmf....

 

......THIS IS LIONEL PRODUCT SECURITY...... WE HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO NEUTRALIZE THIS FORUM MEMBER TO PROTECT THE UNFINALIZED VERSION OF LIONEL PRODUCTS........ TRAINDIESEL WILL BE QUARANTINED AND RETURNED TO THIS FORUM UPON CATALOG RELEASE.....  WARNING!!.... CONTINUED GUESSING AND SPECULATING ON CATALOG CONTENTS WILL BE DELT WITH SWIFTLY...... RETURN TO YOUR NORMAL ACTIVITIES........

This sounds like 1984 

Big brother is watching

trainroomgary posted:

I have the Lionel Blue Tooth APP, on my iPhone and nothing to run.  I am looking forward to this new part of the hobby. Lionel Blue Tooth APP

Gary: from Michigan, the state with no palm trees but we have Lionel Trains.

I'll stick with the good old fashion 2.4GHz Cab2 Legacy. They can keep WIFI, Bluetooth and what ever else they come up with.

DennyM posted:
trainroomgary posted:

I have the Lionel Blue Tooth APP, on my iPhone and nothing to run.  I am looking forward to this new part of the hobby. Lionel Blue Tooth APP

Gary: from Michigan, the state with no palm trees but we have Lionel Trains.

I'll stick with the good old fashion 2.4GHz Cab2 Legacy. They can keep WIFI, Bluetooth and what ever else they come up with.

Hi Denny: That's OK,  you are always welcome at my Train Room for an Adult Beverage or we could walk down to the lake, with some Walt's Crawlers and pop some bluegills or look for a big pike. With minnows from Buck's, but we will run some Lionel Trains before and after the "Big Catch".

Gary: from the part of Michigan, with no palm trees, I think I saw some on the sunset side.

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trainroomgary posted:
DennyM posted:
trainroomgary posted:

I have the Lionel Blue Tooth APP, on my iPhone and nothing to run.  I am looking forward to this new part of the hobby. Lionel Blue Tooth APP

Gary: from Michigan, the state with no palm trees but we have Lionel Trains.

I'll stick with the good old fashion 2.4GHz Cab2 Legacy. They can keep WIFI, Bluetooth and what ever else they come up with.

Hi Denny: That's OK,  you are always welcome at my Train Room for an Adult Beverage or we could walk down to the lake, with some Walt's Crawlers and pop some bluegills or look for a big pike. With minnows from Buck's, but we will run some Lionel Trains before and after the "Big Catch".

Gary: from the part of Michigan, with no palm trees, I think I saw some on the sunset side.

That sounds like a plan Gary. There are some fake palm trees here in town. They are by some hoity toity condos.

leapinlarry posted:

thank you (LIONEL) for agreeing on the Trolley Car, there are many neat street cars, one called Desire, so Lionel could produce several of these in different paint schemes...Add the people sitting and standing, neat announcements, all Legacy controlled....Yes to more F7's, SP Daylights, Sante Fe War Bonnets, The Niagara with all the steam effects, blow down, steam cylinder effect, etc, swinging bell. Also another fully equipped Hudson....The list goes on and on and on...They could re-introduce Legacy Budd Cars.....Wow..

Did I miss Legacy Budd Cars in the recent past, or did you mean Lionel should make them for the first time?

I know for years it was a sore spot with me that they never put either TMCC or Legacy in the traditional PW style Budd Cars. 

(Yes, I know 3rd Rail did scale Budd cars with TMCC in them, but this is a Lionel Catalog thread, so they don't count)

-Dave

Traindiesel posted:

Well I'm breaking my silence!  It's my opinion that Lionel will generate more sales if people know what to expect, and the people should know!

To start, what I've seen on the front cover of the catalog is a scale GgywkESIopicvD......  uhhg...ooofff,,,, pow! .....SMASH... ouch!!!  mmfffmmfmfmf....

 

......THIS IS LIONEL PRODUCT SECURITY...... WE HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO NEUTRALIZE THIS FORUM MEMBER TO PROTECT THE UNFINALIZED VERSION OF LIONEL PRODUCTS........ TRAINDIESEL WILL BE QUARANTINED AND RETURNED TO THIS FORUM UPON CATALOG RELEASE.....  WARNING!!.... CONTINUED GUESSING AND SPECULATING ON CATALOG CONTENTS WILL BE DELT WITH SWIFTLY...... RETURN TO YOUR NORMAL ACTIVITIES........

hmm the first letter he typed was a capital G before he got apprehended 

GG1 Nah we already have one 

Greenbriar maybe

GP40-2 ooh good one maybe for Alaska Railroad

GP60M sign me up man 

Finally listened to the Notch 6 episode with the interview with Lionel's CEO, Howard H.  There is a segment in this podcast regarding the Friday Lionel LCCA Seminar, which concludes the LCCA annual convention.  It's clear to me that Lionel intended an entire review of the 2017 vol. 2 to be a special treat for LCCA convention attendees.  It is noted that this sort of sneak preview had never been done before, and was meant to demonstrate Lionel's special regard for LCCA members attending their annual convention, since LCCA is, after all,  the official Lionel club.  Interpret that as you will while awaiting Aug. 17th .  I suppose if there is enough criticism, they will find some other way to let LCCA members know about the catalog contents in advance rather than just using the annual convention.  Perhaps a .pdf sent to all with email addresses on file?  Just a thought.  Of the ten thousand or so LCCA members, most cannot or will not attend the annual convention, obviously.  Perhaps the catalog could be put on the LCCA site, restricted to members?

Rocky Mountaineer posted:
Traindiesel posted:

Well I'm breaking my silence!  It's my opinion that Lionel will generate more sales if people know what to expect, and the people should know!

To start, what I've seen on the front cover of the catalog is a scale GgywkESIopicvD......  uhhg...ooofff,,,, pow! .....SMASH... ouch!!!  mmfffmmfmfmf....

 

......THIS IS LIONEL PRODUCT SECURITY...... WE HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO NEUTRALIZE THIS FORUM MEMBER TO PROTECT THE UNFINALIZED VERSION OF LIONEL PRODUCTS........ TRAINDIESEL WILL BE QUARANTINED AND RETURNED TO THIS FORUM UPON CATALOG RELEASE.....  WARNING!!.... CONTINUED GUESSING AND SPECULATING ON CATALOG CONTENTS WILL BE DELT WITH SWIFTLY...... RETURN TO YOUR NORMAL ACTIVITIES........

Brian,

Are you trying to get THIS thread deleted too?    The shelf-life for threads relating to the upcoming Lionel catalog is not very good. 

Dvvve, Muh can tlk an tied uhhp. I .....  WHAAP!:::::  uHHHHHH!!

Rocky Mountaineer posted:
trainroomgary posted:

This Pere Marquette,  Lionel Bluetooth, will be in tomorrows catalog on page  72 or 73.

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Calendar check:  tomorrow is Aug 7th.  Do you have that confused with Aug 17th?     If so, you're off by 10 days. 

Hi Rocky:  No Chaos on my Google Calendar.  I have a meeting tomorrow with a secret agent.  He told me he will have a hard copy for me tomorrow.  If not: August 17th., will work.

Gary

Grampstrains posted:
trainroomgary posted:

This Pere Marquette,  Lionel Bluetooth, will be in tomorrows catalog on page  72 or 73.

Berkshire Page 72 73

Gary: See you in Chicago.............................. 

Why not?  It was in the last catalog along with my Santa Fe.  The main question is, when will it be delivered?    I thought this catalog was going to be all new items with no re-runs?

Hi Grampstrains  /  My: L.H.S. said: October 31, 2017.  

I have 4 LionChief Plus Locos on my layout, and all is well. Look forward to incorporating a Bluetooth and this Pere Marquette is a local road name in Michigan.

I hope to see them this week for an update: Gary

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" I thought this catalog was going to be all new items with no re-runs?"

I don't believe that is correct.  This comment was meant as a sardonic, negative comment about Lionel from one of its prominent whineries.  

There will be some new items, and two new train sets, but I don't believe anyone from Lionel, or who attended the LCCA seminar has confirmed that it will be all new items.

Landsteiner posted:

" I thought this catalog was going to be all new items with no re-runs?"

I don't believe that is correct.  This comment was meant as a sardonic, negative comment about Lionel from one of its prominent whineries.  

There will be some new items, and two new train sets, but I don't believe anyone from Lionel, or who attended the LCCA seminar has confirmed that it will be all new items.

Actually I think Ryan said this in the podcast.  Of course "all new" could be items that have different paint schemes etc and not necessarily new tooling.

Over the weekend I finally got to try out the HO PE with BlueTooth.  After using that I think the BlueTooth LionChief sets should be a big hit.  I can see why Train Room Gary is excited about these.

MartyE posted:
Landsteiner posted:

" I thought this catalog was going to be all new items with no re-runs?"

I don't believe that is correct.  This comment was meant as a sardonic, negative comment about Lionel from one of its prominent whineries.  

There will be some new items, and two new train sets, but I don't believe anyone from Lionel, or who attended the LCCA seminar has confirmed that it will be all new items.

Actually I think Ryan said this in the podcast.  Of course "all new" could be items that have different paint schemes etc and not necessarily new tooling.

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Actually, that very comment in the podcast about the entire catalog featuring new products has prompted all the interest.  Aside from that, we'd all just be expecting another Volume 2 catalog with little fanfare.  It's the "all-new-products" comment that has folks wondering.  And I think you're right... new doesn't necessarily imply all new tooling.  It could simply be new SKU's ranging from recent offerings with different paint schemes to completely new items.

Whatever the case may be, that comment may have prompted some interest, but it's already old news now.  By giving little to no timely follow-up, coupled with the LCCA folks saying literally nothing about the convention preview... it's got me wondering if the catalog will really have ANYTHING all that notable.  

For now, it will be what it will be, and we'll see it when we see it.  Hopefully, it will live up to all the pre-release hype.

 

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The way I interpreted the Podcast comments was that Lionel wants to even out the product announcement/delivery cycle. I doubt that this means a change in the overall R&D budget for the year, just when things are announced. Remember... "New Item" and "New Tooling" are different terms in the vernacular of Lionel catalogs. I would expect a bit of "New Tooling" with most"New Items" being new road names of existing tooling. Just like any other catalog.

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