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These posts are useless.  Prices are set by costs of production relative to demand.  There are also monetary policy decisions involved that are off limits here. If people pay the price asked, then they aren’t too high.  Everything else is just people expressing a view that they would like things to be cheaper.  The answer is to make more money or buy less crap that you don’t need.  

Prices are set by what the market will allow as well. The fact is that train prices have been increasing for many years and they weren't cheap to start with and people have been complaining all the time. These trains are a small market so the margins are higher, plus there has been inflation due to cost of production in China going up, parts scarcity because of Covid disruptions and shipping that has been increasing for a long while, it adds up ( blaming one factor alone is one element economics which is about as useful as predicting the future based on 2 data points).

Thing is, people are still buying them at these prices and I agree with another poster, that many of those complaining aren't the ones buying them likely, otherwise likely Lionel wouldn't be producing stuff at all ( it is nice to fantasize that if we stop buying the trains Lionel would make them reasonable, problem is at a lower price point would no longer be worth it for them to produce). Now if we could get millions of ppl to buy trains, well....

I get irritated when ppl on here try to use the prices to price some point outside trains. Take a look at the archive threads on here, we have heard the same complaint since I have been on here, the prices keep going up, they are too expensive, and I have been on here since 2009. Prices rise when inflation was running 3% and they went up more than that each year, it is going up now w real inflation showing up in the economy as a whole.

This is a hobby item and a luxury one at that, so it is what it is.

Good Post on Pricing.   But the golden question is Gentlemen,  Can Lionel Deliver a New Working Locomotive in a New Cosmetic Condition at the $600 TO $2000 price range?   Yes people are willing to pay.  But We are agreeing to Pay that High price for a New Working Locomotive with in New Cosmetic condition! 

Now the expectation is that Lionel Deliver exactly that!     However Sadly that is not what I hear from many lately and there are several post today that clearly discuss that they have received product in poor working condition. 

Currently I have on order 6 Lionel Locomotives out of the 2022 Catalog.  As I have said, I am willing to pay the high price, but my expectations are also High as well and expect the product to be new, work properly and be in a new cosmetic condition.

Hoping for the best.

Rory

I seem to recall one of our beloved manufacturers trying to meet all demands...benchmark features, new tooling, plethora of flags, improved quality-out-of-the-box, catalogs galore, premium dealer displays, etc., etc.,....and keeping prices "affordable" (?)...

And now K-Line is gone.

I know, I know...iconic brands NEVER die.  They're impervious to anything/everything.  The older they get, the better they get...just like the demographics supporting them.

Right?

Time for my daily fistful of pills...and another cup o' joe.

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