The freight car manufacturer I worked for in the 1970's built a gondola car with side posts with a deeper cross section and material thickness, the end posts were built in the same manner. The top chord and the side sill were part of of the car side assembly that were welded to the side sheet, side posts and end post, we referred to this as a heavy duty mill gondola car, and example of this car are the black and yellow rail-gon gondola cars. The end assemblies of this car consisted of horizontal U-Shaped steel shapes, a steel sheet, bottom end sill and top chord, this was continuously welded assembly as were the side assemblies. There also was a corner stiffener L shape plate continuously welded to the end and side assembly on there respective cord joint to reinforce this corner. Also note the side and end posts were U-shaped and continuously welded to the side sheet, side sill and top chord. The corrugated area of the side sheet  on the CNN gondola car is a structural method for panel stiffening.


The corrugated gondola might have only been made in a short run as a brass O scale model.

The new Lionel 65' or 66' mill gondolas are the closest plastic models.

There is an old Lionel gondola style that is to be used with operating accessories that is similar, but not the same.


"Modern freight cars" by Jeff Wilson on page 68 shows a car like your picture.  The narrative and caption indicate these cars were made by Thrall and Greenville in the 70s and 80s.  The one pictured is a 100 ton at 65 feet long.  Must be like the CNW in your picture.  Wilson just calls them gondolas but he does describe the panels as corrugated.  I am voting with falconservice -we name them corrugated panel gondolas.


Sorry, no help on a model that is made- I sure don't have one

Hokie 71

Chief of Operations, Free Union, Blacksburg, and Albemarle Railroad (FUBAR)

Don Sierakowski 111617 posted:

Dave, keep your eyes open, because the Greenville 70’ gon (the larger one) was made by Pecos River Brass.   They do pop up from time to time.  

Thanks Don, I will watch the O Scale brass and hope no one want's one as bad as me.

Dave Ripp


Well obviously a poor first time posting images to the forum!  Any way I bought the above plastic O scale gon at the Parma 2 rail show last year. I have shown it around to some other O scale guys and have had no luck on finding out who made this car. The construction almost seems to be vacuformed as shown by the shallow relief on the airbrake equipment. The car is approx. 14 inches long and has brass sill steps and grab irons added. If anybody has seen another, let me know. I'd like to know some history on these models.  Doug 

falconservice posted:

Somebody could use a 3D laser scanner on a real GREENVILLE STEEL CAR CO. gondola to have the data to print a 3D model of these corrugated gondolas.

CNW, MP, SP had them and they are still in service. 

I have to find them in my photos.


I was thinking the same thing Andrew.

Dave Ripp


Dave Ripp. posted:

Does anyone know the proper name for this style of gondola? I see them with scrap loads most of the time. Also have they been

made in o gauge?


Pecos River Brass imported the Greenville gondola with reinforced corrugated sides in the 90s in brass in O scale (4535, the UP/MP/CNW car).  They are occasionally seen for sale.   As a matter of fact there's one on eBay as we speak. 

Since they're brass they are priced accordingly.  They went for around $200 at one time but like anything else that means you'll see tons of them $150 when you're not looking or only one for $395 when you are desperate and looking.

If you  so desire,  if you do an internet search for Pecos River brass O scale Greenville gondola you will find a lot of info on the web.  

Rob M. ARHS # 3846 PRRT&HS # 8141 EPTC "Life Is Like A Mountain Railway, With An Engineer That's Brave..."

Dave Ripp. posted:
falconservice posted:

3rd Rail could have new runs of corrugated gondolas for Eastern railroads and Western railroads produced.


That would be cool I think they would sell.

Wouldn't have to be 3rd Rail - brands L, A and M are in the nice plastic car business. What shocks me is that none of them have done it. These things are all over the (real world) place, yet never show up in the catalogs. Even back in the pre-new-tooling-embargo days.

Sell? Oh, yes. Common cars. 

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