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I would like to boast that I was one of the lucky ones this past Friday that got to see this fantastic layout of Jeff James. Jeff, thanks for opening your home to us and tell the wife that the brownies were out of site.

 

If you are even close to Jeff, you need to contact him and see this wonderful layout and his "Wall of Trains".

 

Thanks again Jeff.

Jeff,

 

The trailer, coils, and racks look outstanding!     As you correctly show, these 53' flat trailers can only handle 2 decent-sized coils in a load (they are heavy).  I think you told me once you were a crane operator in a previous life.  Would you say that the covered gondola coil cars were loaded the same way (2-3 coils / car)?  I tend to doubt you would see 8 16-20 ton coils in a single car (200 tons), but maybe you can set me straight.

 

By the way, I have a Mack 60B tractor/trailor combination (I think it came with logs), that I'm looking to re-paint (or have painted) in the Black & Orange Weir-Cove scheme.  That will be tooling around the layout as they did in the prototype.

 

Thanks,

 

George

Hi George,

 

  Thanks for the comments!! Yes, I was a craneman for a lot of years loaded a bunch of coils on trucks & coil cars during that time. You are spot on about the two coils on the semi, max weight was 40,000 lbs of steel on the trucks unless they had a permit to carry extra weight. The railroad cars varied on the amount of coils of course due to there individual weight. An average load would usually be in the 170,000 - 180,000 lb range give or take a little. Generally, we tried to load the cars to full capacity weight wise. Sometimes only 4 coils up to possible 10 coils per car. I can not remember what the max limit was on the rails with the car included, but I think it was somewhere in the 252,000 lb range?? Maybe someone else could chime in here more on the aspect. It was a awesome job playing with the big toys!!!

 

Thanks, Jeff

Originally Posted by jjames9641:

Hi George,

 

 I can not remember what the max limit was on the rails with the car included, but I think it was somewhere in the 252,000 lb range?? Maybe someone else could chime in here more on the aspect. It was a awesome job playing with the big toys!!!

The numbers that come to mind were 263,000. Later it escalated to 286000, and in some places 315000 (or at least there is a proposal afloat to raise it to this)

---PCJ

Originally Posted by RailRide:
Originally Posted by jjames9641:

Hi George,

 

 I can not remember what the max limit was on the rails with the car included, but I think it was somewhere in the 252,000 lb range?? Maybe someone else could chime in here more on the aspect. It was a awesome job playing with the big toys!!!

The numbers that come to mind were 263,000. Later it escalated to 286000, and in some places 315000 (or at least there is a proposal afloat to raise it to this)

---PCJ

Wow!  286,000 lbs = 143 tons.  I know from the hot mill side of the operation you could see 80, 120, 160, 200 ton hot metal cars, but those typically don't run around on mainline tracks.  Spilling hot molten metal on a mainline could be...bad.  Real bad.  

 

But I digress.  With that kind of tonnage in coil cars, a decently sized train would require 3-4 MU'ed diesel locomotives (also called a LASHUP  by some infidels ).

Since my mill operates in the mid-1950s, I'm going to limit the number of coils in my gondolas to no more than 4. 

 

Thanks for the info!

 

George

VERY NICE JOB ON THE COIL RACKS.

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