THE LIONEL CC NIAGARA PULLS VERY STRONG

Alex; Great minds think alike I guess; I changed out the gears in my CCII Niagara yesterday afternoon. Didn't think it was too bad a job. I didn't have any new universals on hand, so that upgrade is down the road, but at least it's above the lower boiler pan.

Kudos to Ajin in Korea for designing a gearbox you don't have to remove the driver set to access the internals.

D&H 65 posted:

Alex; Great minds think alike I guess; I changed out the gears in my CCII Niagara yesterday afternoon. Didn't think it was too bad a job. I didn't have any new universals on hand, so that upgrade is down the road, but at least it's above the lower boiler pan.

Kudos to Ajin in Korea for designing a gearbox you don't have to remove the driver set to access the internals.

Yes changing the gears themselves isn't too bad , just that most of the engine has to come apart to get to them. As for the driveshaft that is a bit more involved, if you should need any assistance in the future just let me know. I'll be glad to guide you in the right direction.  

Thanks, 

Alex 

Neato - for whatever reason that was very satisfying to watch.  Thanks for that.

Alex,

Awesome as always bud!!

Michael

Alex, I lost track on this discussion. Lionel made the new gears along with NWSL also.  Who made the replacement universals joints?  G

Great job ALEX!!!

I too have the new gears and haven't put them in yet.  Waiting for the old to give out first. 

Question:  What size is the U joint and where did you get it from.  Thanks.

Alex tests the legacy niagara prototype??

Nice work as always Alex! Have you put the "train repair" sign up on the front of your place yet?

Between the buildings and repairs. I'm surprised you find time for your own layout.

laz1957 posted:

Great job ALEX!!!

I too have the new gears and haven't put them in yet.  Waiting for the old to give out first. 

Question:  What size is the U joint and where did you get it from.  Thanks.

 

Here you go Laz:

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/t...a-driveshaft-part-ii

You can get them from Amazon, eBay, or some RC hobby shops.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-4x...2:g:2v0AAOSwMHdXRlUx

Pete

Hi Guys,

Thank you for your nice comments, but thank you's also need to go to Pete (Norton), Mike R, and Kevin for their input.

Laz and George here's some photos of what i used to make the driveshaft, all parts were purchased from ebay. I'm pretty sure these parts are used for RC cars.

RickO how are you my buddy, great to hear from you. Thanks

Thanks, Alex

Nice work Alex.

More out of curiosity how did you cur the shaft?  Meaning the U  Joint?

 Once again Alex has made perfect and engine with a poorly designed gear box and U joint system that for the original price of the CCII Niagara should have been made perfect to begin with by Lionel.

Alex, thanks again for the time and effort you along with Mike R , and the other guys have put into this project.

Richard

Thanks NORTON and ALEX for the info.  I will order these.

Richard Gonzales posted:

 Once again Alex has made perfect and engine with a poorly designed gear box and U joint system that for the original price of the CCII Niagara should have been made perfect to begin with by Lionel.

Alex, thanks again for the time and effort you along with Mike R , and the other guys have put into this project.

Richard

Hi Richard

Thank you for the kind words, yours will be up next !!!  once i have your M1a finished

Thanks, Alex

that is some seriously stout pulling power.  very, very impressive.

it's also funny to watch a steam engine run around naked, like your dog when he/she has no collar on.

Berkshire President posted:

that is some seriously stout pulling power.  very, very impressive.

it's also funny to watch a steam engine run around naked, like your dog when he/she has no collar on.

 It could have pulled more than it was pulling, the only issue was the wheels started to slip on the rails. I didn't put the shell back on yet, this engine is getting a ERR cruise M installed, as soon as i receive the parts.

Thanks, Alex

I missed something here. Where can the gears be purchased and what size?

I have been thinking of purchasing this loco and am up for the conversion, but need to know where to find gears.

I apologize if I didn't see the source mentioned.

Thanks for any info.

ROCKYROAD,

  The gears can be purchased at Lionels replacement parts site.  The number is 6208069900.