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Well, I am going to follow NWL with MY "new" American Flyer set, but its from (about) 1924 so its 8 years after the beautiful set posted by NWL above. 

Here is the Type XI engine with "A.F.-16" under the cab with embossed lettering in the casting and highlighted in gold.  It is  without the raised panel hence dating it from 1923 at the earliest.  Despite being nearly 100 years old, the CW motor works perfectly and so does both the cab brake lever and the under the frame brake trip which works with a brake rail in the track (which came with the set).

American Flyer type 11 loco 1923-26

Here is the entire train.  IAW Greenberg's AF Prewar O'Gauge the "new" 6 inch cars were introduced in 1923 or 1924.  He states that there is at least one verified set, just like this one, from 1924 so the book maintains that is the true introduction date of these new cars.  The Pullman is marked "Chicago, Milwaukee, and St. Paul" over the windows and 1206 - Seattle-1206 under the windows.  The 3-window , 6 panel door, mail / baggage is marked American Flyer Lines and 1205 on the left side of the door and "United States Mail / Railway Post Office" in two lines on the lower right side of the door.  Both have (using Greenberg's nomenclature) Type lV trucks and Type V couplers (garter slot) .  The color scheme and lettering date them from about 1924

American Flyer type 11 loco and train

Here are the Pullman and Mail/Baggage car in close up. 

American Flyer type 11 loco consist 1205 and 1206

Here is the set in the "bottom" of the set box.  Alas I don't have the cover and I can't really prove this is the bottom of this set box.  However, this one is a robust well constructed box both glued and stapled.  the dividers are the right size for the pieces and are also robust and permanently fastened into the outer box, so this clearly was a train set box, I just can't prove that it was for this set. 

American Flyer type 11 loco set box

Although I am not as familiar with early AF CW track, these pieces appear to be genuine and of the same time period as the cars.  As delivered to me, the "set" only had straight track (which of course could not be its original configuration) so I don't know if the curved sleepers are canted or flat.  The condition of the track is excellent however and consistent with the condition of the trains.

Hope you enjoy the pictures, this set was a thrill for me to find and acquire.

Don

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Don,

The curved Flyer track would have the same ties (being sloped from one side to the other) just like the straight sections.  Your track appears to be correct for that time period.  Also your estimate of dating to 1923-1924 is certainly in the ballpark.  It could be from 1925-26, but it is difficult to date some of these items when we are c. 100 years out from their production.  I noted the baggage car does not have the Milwaukee St. Paul herald, which makes me believe this could be a later set, but like I said, it is difficult to date some of these items.  

NWL

 

 

I bought a 211 flatcar with truck from EBay, it showed up this week. I am real happy with it, the doors open, and the hood comes off. Used, but looks new to me.

 

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Today my Dutchy mate has offered up a package that I just couldn't say no to ...

A Clockwork rake that unfortunately doesnt seem to wind up ( hopefully just a broken spring , or detached from the axle cage ) and is also lacking drive rods and the front steam assemblies , but in a first for me ... its GAUGE I ... and its also a Heinrich Fischer ! which kinda blows my mind a little , because I never knew Fischer did Gauge I ? Always living and learning

I know I havent come across them before in my travels, but obviously they are out there but there is bugger all on the web that I could find to increase my knowledge about them ?

Fischer in general seems to be fairly undocumented ?

This set looks very much like a "Blown Up" version of their O Gauge locos that were in British liveries for export ... but it looks  HUUUGE lol ( its still in the netherlands )

Even comes with a few lengths of Fischer track

Gauge I is a rabbt hole I never thought I could go down ( due to the $$$'s) but I suppose I now have a foot in the door lol!

Any info from our knowledgeable Euro collecting guys muchly appreciated !

( @FRENCHTRAINS @Arne ...and come back @sncf231e we miss you! )

 

 

 

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Chris:  beautiful train.  However I was also really impressed with the hotel or station with the dome roof that was in the foreground of the video...who made that?  Oh and the 0-6-0 Tank, is that Hornby? 

  Fatman, what a find!  I have no Gauge 1 trains at all, likely because I could never afford them and they were not too popular in the US although they were made by Ives.  I even have had to give up my Standard Gauge trains at least in running, no space big enough. The color scheme on the Pullmans does seem reminiscent to my French Hornby Pullmans (shown below) although mine are from a much later era and much smaller of course.   Beautiful set Fatman thanks for posting.  Th

French Hornby Train - following view

Craiginor - I have an original Lionel 211 flat car, its my only series 200 car.  It is so big I could almost ride on it!  It does nicely hold some cool trucks (like yours) though.  I have a picture of it with a Wyandotte Tow Truck that fits, thing is huge.

Great pictures and videos all.  Hope everyone has a great week.  Stay healthy

Don

 

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Today my Dutchy mate has offered up a package that I just couldn't say no to ...

A Clockwork rake that unfortunately doesnt seem to wind up ( hopefully just a broken spring , or detached from the axle cage ) and is also lacking drive rods and the front steam assemblies , but in a first for me ... its GAUGE I ... and its also a Heinrich Fischer ! which kinda blows my mind a little , because I never knew Fischer did Gauge I ? Always living and learning

I know I havent come across them before in my travels, but obviously they are out there but there is bugger all on the web that I could find to increase my knowledge about them ?

Fischer in general seems to be fairly undocumented ?



 

 

 

Fatman,

yes, Heinrich Fischer had made 1 gauge, but I think only this set. I have never seen a other.

I don´t collect 1 gauge, but I have the same in 0 gauge.

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Arne

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In a fortuitous "Co-inkydink! " closed the sale on another Sakai B&O battery loco for spares

Its rather nice outside , but has had batteries left in at some stage so there is some corrosion one end of interior

looks OK this end internally ...

Other end ... Not so much ... who knows it might still run , but I'ma doubting ?

Depends on how much "BlackWire" has formed with the electrolysis ...TBD!

"Happytime No.1 many good fun" running gear tho

@Fatman posted:

In a fortuitous "Co-inkydink! " closed the sale on another Sakai B&O battery loco for spares

Its rather nice outside , but has had batteries left in at some stage so there is some corrosion one end of interior

 

That's really cool! - I have never seen one like it before.  Is this O gauge?  I am assuming Sakai is Japanese, is that correct?

@jhz563 I'll let you know when the boxed set gets here LOL !

They are marketed as "Standard Gauge " train sets , and seem to have a collaborative history behind the various versions with attributes to Sakai Dakin and even Alps thrown around as manufacturers .

The Sakai collectors guys are happy to call them Sakai tho ...they are def 0-ish in scale tho

All the sets came with various 2-rail track .. and I could be wrong but I "think" it is nominally smaller than O ... I think @Steve "Papa" Eastman

might be able to chime in ?

The full set is in my post a page or so back ..

 

 They take D size batteries tho .. so def of a good size !

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@Fatman posted:

@jhz563 I'll let you know when the boxed set gets here LOL !

They are marketed as "Standard Gauge " train sets , and seem to have a collaborative history behind the various versions with attributes to Sakai Dakin and even Alps thrown around as manufacturers .

The Sakai collectors guys are happy to call them Sakai tho ...they are def 0-ish in scale tho

All the sets came with various 2-rail track .. and I could be wrong but I "think" it is nominally smaller than O ... I think @Steve "Papa" Eastman

might be able to chime in ?

The full set is in my post a page or so back ..

 

 They take D size batteries tho .. so def of a good size !

More like S Gauge 

Steve

This week i had the pleasure to buy a very nice loco from EDOBAUD in great original condition which is rare as the paint was directly put on metal without any primer. It dates from 1932-35 and is a very good runner despite his weight. Edobaud trains are more gauge one size, even if they run on o gauge three rails, particularity is they take curent from the center and forward and bacward from the inside and outside rails so all wheels are isolated  and tracks had wood sleepers.

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And here are some EDOBAUD trains and accessories in action at home,

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Have a nice weekend,  Daniel

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This week i had the pleasure to buy a very nice loco from EDOBAUD in great original condition which is rare as the paint was directly put on metal without any primer. It dates from 1932-35 and is a very good runner despite his weight. Edobaud trains are more gauge one size, even if they run on o gauge three rails, particularity is they take curent from the center and forward and bacward from the inside and outside rails so all wheels are isolated  and tracks had wood sleepers.

 

And here are some EDOBAUD trains and accessories in action at home,

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Have a nice weekend,  Daniel

Love that rug!

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