When I got antsy to get going on the Upstairs O Gauge Layout room and Layout table- and set up a Fastrack loop and a few accessories on the foyer Floor around and under the coffee table! I ran my original AF 1928 uncataloged set and a little 600 series freight set.
@George S posted:The roof is the same color as the regular Ives 121. It does look gray, with a blue tint. This Ink Blue is very gray. If it doesn’t match, I’ll keep trying.
I’ll keep your observation of the yellow in mind as I try to match to body. Lighting in these different photographs tends to change the color.George
I received my beat up caboose. Here are the before pictures. 
Good news is that it has all the trim except the plates. I agree with NWL that the roof is going to be the problem color to match. It’s much closer to charcoal gray than any blue. I am going to experiment in blending spray colors on some scrap.
I have two shades of cream for the body that I will test and share.
This shouldn’t take too long. It’s mostly a strip and repaint.
George
@Carey TeaRose posted:When I got antsy to get going on the Upstairs O Gauge Layout room and Layout table- and set up a Fastrack loop and a few accessories on the foyer Floor around and under the coffee table! I ran my original AF 1928 uncataloged set and a little 600 series freight set.
Beautiful room!
A favorite car, the Maerklin Transportwagen fur Flugzeuge No. 1881/1, produced 1919-1935. My example is post 1926 when buffers were added making the car a little longer. The car is all original except for the reproduction pilot.
@Jim Kelly-Evans posted:A favorite car, the Maerklin Transportwagen fur Flugzeuge No. 1881/1, produced 1919-1935. My example is post 1926 when buffers were added making the car a little longer. The car is all original except for the reproduction pilot.
That car is incredibly cool. That's why I love this thread - seeing so many things that I never even knew existed.
Amazing that the car survived in that condition with almost all of the parts intact. Of course, it's sad in a way, because it means the lucky kid who got it never really played with it.
@George S posted:
Good news is that it has all the trim except the plates. I agree with NWL that the roof is going to be the problem color to match. It’s much closer to charcoal gray than any blue. I am going to experiment in blending spray colors on some scrap.
I have two shades of cream for the body that I will test and share.
This shouldn’t take too long. It’s mostly a strip and repaint.
George
I have had one of these apart for about a year waiting for me to get back to it. I intended to fabricate a replacement cupula to make look more lie a northeast wide cupula design. the first couple tries came out poor and just never had time to get it done. maybe next year.
A streamlined HORNBY set, reference AD for "Aero Dynamique"? It is a set from the M series which is smaller than the usual models and represent a train from the Paris Lyon to Mediterranean coast railway company. it dates from circa 1935 and hard to find in near new condition.
Have a nice weekend, Daniel
Daniel: That stunning Swiss made original Darstead Prussian car made my day! The price on that beauty was probably not for the cardiac stressed! Congrats!
@George S posted:I received my beat up caboose. Here are the before pictures.
Good news is that it has all the trim except the plates. I agree with NWL that the roof is going to be the problem color to match. It’s much closer to charcoal gray than any blue. I am going to experiment in blending spray colors on some scrap.
I have two shades of cream for the body that I will test and share.
This shouldn’t take too long. It’s mostly a strip and repaint.
George
I think I came up with the blue gray roof. I started with Ink Blue and lightly oversprayed it with Charcoal Gray.
Here are the color options for the cream. Antique White and Ivory White. which is closest? The Antique is a little runny.
George
Daniel : What a great find, thanks for posting. You are right, the MO class of Hornby was O - gauge but a smaller scale than the rest of the line. I have one of the first passenger series of this line from about 1930-31. It is pictured below. Not nearly as sophisticated as yours but the MO line did get better as the years went on.
Daniel, as always, thank you for posting. I had never seen the "AD" set your pictured before.
Don
Ohhh Frenchy ! What a marvellous PLM Aerodynamique ! Thats one of my Bucket List locomotives .. C'est Magnifique Mon Frere !
Same with the Marklin Marvel from MR JKE ! glorious condition and some rocking horse poo right there !
Well this week for me has been more about "Bits and Pieces" than stunning rarity or amazingness
Starting with a simple Post War Hornby British Rail tender
Then a nice Canadian Pacific Marx found here in Aus .. ( excuse sellers photography lol )
Apparently its a "Perfect runner"
And sourced from the same fine fellow .. a lovely little double reduction Marx motor ( again perfect runner) which is quite possibly going to replace the motor in my British Marx Silverlink which has some issues !
But the absolute BARGAIN of the week was finding a lot of Vintage wheels on the Netherlands epay, and with the kind assistance of my Dutchy mate it was secured for an astounding opening bid of ......
0.99 Euro's ! with 7 euros local postage !
Thats some MAJOR treasure right there ! A lot of early pressed cut tin spoked wheels as well as some later cast versions ( and some HWN or similar plastics lol )
But the funniest thing I mentioned to Dutchy after winning it ... the Charles Gervais Cheese box the dude sent it in .... is worth 50 times the winning bid according to asking prices on epay !!! 
So we started out pretty meekly but ended with a bang !
( it doesnt take much to keep me happy lol )
Here's my contribution. I picked it up at York from a guy who specializes in European trains and frequently travels to the Czech Republic. He threw it in when I purchased some other items. It appears to be handmade. I think the body is aluminum. It has an O-gauge mechanism, but the overall size is more like standard or 1 gauge. I have not yet dared to power it up. Any ideas about it? 
@Fatman posted:But the absolute BARGAIN of the week was finding a lot of Vintage wheels on .......
( it doesnt take much to keep me happy lol )
Fatman I believe your last statement on the post sums it up for most of us!
It’s the thrill of the hunt and seeing value in something that doesn’t mean much to someone else. Keep up the hunt across the globe and enjoy. i know your collecting has broaden my toy train knowledge.
Fatman...you are now defiantly the "BIG WHEEL" among our group!! Great Marx CP loco as well. Do you know if its pre or post war? Is it an 0-4-0 or a 2-4-2 ? Marx made both arrangements. Based on some details, it could date as early as '39 but was then reissued '46-52. Marx made these as 494,495,and 3000 series engines. The key feature separating it from the 391,396,397 series is that it only has one dome and the 39X series had two. In addition the 39X series had a round smokestack while the 3000 and 49X series had the tear drop shaped stack like yours. This would put your engine in the 49X or 3000 series. One key is if there is lettering on the side boards, it would typically be "Marlines" but sometimes said "Canadian Pacific" or sometimes just the number "3000" other variants have just the blank sideboard with the colored trim and no lettering at all. Marx, unfortunately for us collectors today, made a bewildering number of variants on this great loco. In fact he made more variants of this type loco than any other. However, I would agree with your seller..."if its Marx, it will RUN!"
Speaking of Marx, I posted this picture on Front End Friday, but thought you all might like it. Its kind of "pre" Marx. It is a Joy Line loco, CW, from about 1932-35. This followed the Joy Line, cast iron loco made from about 1927. The manufacturer was the Girard Model Works of Girard Pa. which had been founded in 1906 as a manufacturer of springs and was engaged in the toy business from about the 1920's. Louis Marx & Co. became their sole toy distributor under a 5 year contract in 1929. Subsequent financial difficulties resulted in the Girard Model Works filing for bankruptcy in 1934 and Marx (who was a major stockholder and was serving as one of the Directors of the Model Works) acquired the assets of the company from the receivers in January 1935. It was reorganized as the Girard Manufacturing Co and began to produce Marx toys in 1936.
Here is the "mighty" Joy Line steam locomotive pulling her Joy Line heavyweight passenger consist about 1932-1935.
Have a great weekend everyone!
Don
I want to see one of my favorite post strings continue so here's my newest tinplate car. This started as a beat up 4018 and now is an REA express boxcar for my AF passenger train. Later I'll have some more pictures of my AF passenger train with this car in it and double headed with a 4000 and 46XX locomotives. 
Pete in Kansas: Beautiful restoration / customizing job. Did you have any rust? If so what did you do to remove it and did you then have to prepare the surface for new paint. I have several Lionel cars that could use a restoration but they have various amounts of rust and I am not sure of a good mechanism to remove it. Thanks
Don
@Pete in Kansas posted:I want to see one of my favorite post strings continue so here's my newest tinplate car. This started as a beat up 4018 and now is an REA express boxcar for my AF passenger train. Later I'll have some more pictures of my AF passenger train with this car in it and double headed with a 4000 and 46XX locomotives.
I love it!!! More AF Wide Gauge please!!!
@Don McErlean posted:Pete in Kansas: Beautiful restoration / customizing job. Did you have any rust? If so what did you do to remove it and did you then have to prepare the surface for new paint. I have several Lionel cars that could use a restoration but they have various amounts of rust and I am not sure of a good mechanism to remove it. Thanks
Don
Yes it had a lot of rust on the roof which was cleaned with a brass wheel on my bench grinder and then the pitting was filled with red lead. I bought a tube of red lead at walmart a few years ago and at the rate I'm using it this will probably last me for the next 10 years! After these areas are sanded and primed you'd never know the pitting was there.
My first original American Flyer Wide Gauge set in action!
Pete in Kansas: THANK YOU! for the data. Very helpful
Don
@Pete in Kansas posted:I want to see one of my favorite post strings continue so here's my newest tinplate car. This started as a beat up 4018 and now is an REA express boxcar for my AF passenger train. Later I'll have some more pictures of my AF passenger train with this car in it and double headed with a 4000 and 46XX locomotives.
Beautiful Pete! Is this one for sale?
George
A few news in the collection.
Brimtoy train 124, made 1916
Bub indicators from the 30s, all the same with different names.
Germany
Netherland
France
Danmark
And a unknown indicator for Australia
With Adelaide, Mildura, Albury, Bendigo, Frankston, Geelong, Flinders St
Arne
My double headed Flyer wide gauge passenger train.
It is always nice to add a couple of Marklin pieces to the collection and bring them back to life. The switch track in the first picture shows how dirty everthing was on average throughout the lot. After a day's worth of cleaning, I was able to bring the switches and crossing back to life. Just finishing up two more freight cars today. Miketg
Hi @Arne that wonderful platform indicator was manufactured here in Australia by Strong ... they are pretty thin on the ground here so you did great in snapping that one up ...
Its really hard to google info on as you no doubt have found , because "Strong" simply is used soooooo many ways ... but I found an Auction listing showing one
https://www.antiquesreporter.c...on-board-with-clock/
The ones I have seen ( not in person , but on web) usually have a faint "Strong" punched into the underside of the base , but its usually very faint and in some models probably is not there at all ?
They did different versions , I have seen one for Victoria ( your model) and one for New South Wales , of course they have different names on the paper but are identical otherwise 
made in the late 40's to early 50's I believe , but I think @Jamie Thompson might know more?
@Don McErlean Like you , currently I have only the crappy auction pics to go on LOL!
But I did hold back the underneath shot ... its def 0-4-0 oh and auto-reversing motor
Lovely little Joyline consist too Don ... best I can come up with is my rusty old boy ...
@Arne posted:A few news in the collection.
Brimtoy train 124, made 1916
Bub indicators from the 30s, all the same with different names.
Germany
Netherland
France
Danmark
And a unknown indicator for Australia
With Adelaide, Mildura, Albury, Bendigo, Frankston, Geelong, Flinders St
Arne
All very nice Arne- I love that that you got the same indicator from the same company with the variance being the country/region they represent and were therefore primarily marketed in- really cool. I also like the indicators themselves, I have the German one.
Also like the strong Australian pick-up, I studied there a few years back during undergrad- centered in Brizzy, traveled up the east coast, so beautiful. Love the actually train system there, as well. Asked a guy for directions when getting off the subway when Saturday night, he turned around, said “oh a sepo” and just roundhouse kicked me in the middle of a busy subway exit corridor. Luckily my arm was at my side already, his wife was horrified. Regardless, Great mass transit and cool trains; I utilized their trains quite often. Traveled up the east coast. My 5:45ish Friday train ride from Brisbane to Bondi beach is possibly my favorite, most serene and peaceful trainride ive ever taken.(sure beats philly to St. Augustine!)
Just started a project today. Making a c. 1910 American Flyer tank car.
Started with a c. 1910 3 step Chicago car frame
Measured the hole size and spacing from another freight car and drilled the holes. Filed and sanded the rough edges of the holes.
Need to strip the paint next and find someone to make me a 1/2 dozen wooden tanks. Not sure what color I will make the tank, but I will most likely try and match the orange tank shown on page 164 of the Greenberg's Guide to American Flyer Prewar O Gauge.
It is interesting to note that the tank shown in the Greenberg's Guide has an orange painted frame and the other 2 cars have black painted frames. My guess is the cars with the black painted frames are slightly later cars, as my other two c. 1910 freight cars have bodies painted to match the frame and the 1912 cars (with butterfly couplers) have black painted frames.
Here is my c. 1910 gondola, note the remnants of red paint on the frame and gold painted rim at the top of the body.
Here is my c. 1910 log car.
Here is my model for the wooden tank, a c. 1914 tank on the later frame.
I am having extra wooden tanks made, because I have an extra c. 1914 frame that is already drilled for the tank, and it is good to have parts.
NWL
@Nation Wide Lines posted:Just started a project today. Making a c. 1910 American Flyer tank car.
Started with a c. 1910 3 step Chicago car frame
Measured the hole size and spacing from another freight car and drilled the holes. Filed and sanded the rough edges of the holes.
Need to strip the paint next and find someone to make me a 1/2 dozen wooden tanks. Not sure what color I will make the tank, but I will most likely try and match the orange tank shown on page 164 of the Greenberg's Guide to American Flyer Prewar O Gauge.
It is interesting to note that the tank shown in the Greenberg's Guide has an orange painted frame and the other 2 cars have black painted frames. My guess is the cars with the black painted frames are slightly later cars, as my other two c. 1910 freight cars have bodies painted to match the frame and the 1912 cars (with butterfly couplers) have black painted frames.
Here is my c. 1910 gondola, note the remnants of red paint on the frame and gold painted rim at the top of the body.
Here is my c. 1910 log car.
Here is my model for the wooden tank, a c. 1914 tank on the later frame.
I am having extra wooden tanks made, because I have an extra c. 1914 frame that is already drilled for the tank, and it is good to have parts.
NWL
Nice project. Were the original car tanks wooden?
George
@George S posted:Nice project. Were the original car tanks wooden?
George
Yes, the original c. 1910 to 1914 tanks are wooden. They appear to be two piece construction, with a larger piece for the body and then the dome being a smaller piece that is inserted into a hole drilled in the larger body.
It is my understanding that the roof on the early boxcars are also wooden, but I have never seen one in person.
NWL
Got some new tin at a train show yesterday! But The first 4 pics are of two things I’ve wanted to share but haven’t gotten around to doing so:
I was very surprised to come across this Ives transition era Lionel 610 series Observation. Further, I like it quite a bit, besides the one rear number maker being rusty, it’s in great shape and looks great.
The sticker that was on the bottom of these
With a Lionel 610
the second one I forgot- American Model Toys Santa Fe Baggage car. I’m close to completing what I call the “AMT Santa Fe set lite”. I have the baggage, combine. 3160 coach, Burma Vista dome, Indian Areow Obs, just need the diner.
Now, from yesterday’s show. Lead off with a car from another set I’m trying to complete- 1600 series Ives cars. Finally got the caboose. I know it’s not hard to find but I feel it’s usually unreasonably priced, yesterday it wasn’t! 
Karl Bub PRR 167, 4 wheel coach, smooth roof. Odd couplers.
last, certainly not least, Bassett-Lowke LMS 91375 goods wagon. GREAT condition. Silver wheels are interesting
clearly legible logo with “Northampton make”
The extent of my UK roadnames Prewar 
Lionel 1942 catalog. Just thought it was cool
it was a good day. Keep the tin coming!
@StevefromPA posted:Got some new tin at a train show yesterday! But The first 4 pics are of two things I’ve wanted to share but haven’t gotten around to doing so:
I was very surprised to come across this Ives transition era Lionel 610 series Observation. Further, I like it quite a bit, besides the one rear number maker being rusty, it’s in great shape and looks great.
The sticker that was on the bottom of these
With a Lionel 610
the second one I forgot- American Model Toys Santa Fe Baggage car. I’m close to completing what I call the “AMT Santa Fe set lite”. I have the baggage, combine. 3160 coach, Burma Vista dome, Indian Areow Obs, just need the diner.
Now, from yesterday’s show. Lead off with a car from another set I’m trying to complete- 1600 series Ives cars. Finally got the caboose. I know it’s not hard to find but I feel it’s usually unreasonably priced, yesterday it wasn’t!
Karl Bub PRR 167, 4 wheel coach, smooth roof. Odd couplers.
last, certainly not least, Bassett-Lowke LMS 91375 goods wagon. GREAT condition. Silver wheels are interesting
clearly legible logo with “Northampton make”
The extent of my UK roadnames Prewar
Lionel 1942 catalog. Just thought it was cool
it was a good day. Keep the tin coming!
Let me check my extras. I may have a SF Diner.
Steve
StevefromPA...just want to register INSANE Jealousy...a TRAIN SHOW! We have not had one in our entire TCA Division or in even in our area since January...all have been cancelled including those scheduled for November. Lucky Guy!! Nice work finding the "Ives" 610/612 from 1931-32. My Ives reference labels them as "Irvington Production" referencing the Lionel manufacturing plant in Irvington N.J. (believe it or not, in the late 40's I lived with my parents very close to this plant). You might like to know that IAW the same reference, the price of the 610 was $2.95 in '31 and $2.15 in '32. The 612 was slightly more expensive at $3.00 in '31 and $2.95 in '32. Actually while this sounds incredibly cheap by today's prices, we need to remember that '32 was the depths of the Great Depression. Anyway Great Cars and thanks for sharing.
Fatman thanks for the update...the 0-4-0 wheel designation plus 1 dome and a teardrop shaped stack sets the loco in the 3000 /494/495 series. However variants of this loco were still made both pre and post war, starting in 1939. When you get the loco, post some pictures of the design/colors/lettering on the side boards and I can help you date it more precisely if you desire.
By the way your cast iron, black, Joy Line loco would date from about 1930. My data says that the CW loco with a black cast iron boiler, unpainted steel motor side frames, 8-spoke flanged wheels, no side rods, strap spring motor with fly ball governor, and ringing bell was made between 1930-31. As best I can see in the picture, if the key is a "slip on" over a square shaft, then its 1930. A screw - on key would be slightly later into '31. Joy Line listed this as a type "102" loco and it predates the sheet metal boiler loco I posted which dates from about 1932-1935.
Happy Weekend
Don
Well Fatman, I can tell you that this locomotive is one of the hardest to date as Marx made many overlapping configurations. Here is what I got from your pictures and I believe its a good match.
1949-1952, catalogue no. 495, black cab, black boiler, silver and black sideboards with red trim and crest and no lettering, silver pilot, dotted glass headlight, black headlight rim (this is the one detail I can't quite confirm from the pictures), tinned smokestack, tinned sheet metal boiler front, tinned dome, tinned marker lights, 0-4-0 wheel arrangement with Baldwin drivers. In addition the one piece sliding shoe electrical pick up for the motor dates from 1946.
Hope this helps
Don
Here are some of my tinplate/prewar O that is NOT American Flyer:
Baby Ruth, Sunoco, Texaco
two 1690 Pullmans, 1691 Observation
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600 series freight
My two tinplate/prewar O Gauge engines and tenders that pull all my tinplate freight and passenger cars:
the 1688 and It’s matching tender
The repainted 249e and it’s matching tender
Hi lovers of the Hornby ADE trains. I share with you two photos showing the Hornby and Hachette locos with the Hachette cars. Note the differences in striping between the locos.
The Hornby loco is alone and the Hachette is coupled to its train. Note the Hornby ADE box for loco and tender.
Lew Schneider
Trying out a different idea for lighting the ceramic Dept 56 buildings for my new O Layout. This is a clear 18v large globe bulb set in a socket with 2 green 6 inch wires soldered to it. This is the Seasons Bay Springlake Station. 
Help required from our fine American comrades
Pretty much whenever I see a US vintage clockwork loco here in Australia, I am gonna try and snatch it, limited budget permitting, so this fellow has to come live with me .
Much like a young Charles Darwin however, I am left to contemplate "The Origin of Species " and as you fine folk here are the Galapagos to my Darwin when it comes to early USA locos I present for your delectation, perusal, and knowledge emanation... the following ...
My mind wants to say Hafner ... but the mech having a normal shaft and key confuses me?
Mind you it is not in hand yet so its hard for me to say if its a swapped mech , but I would find that unlikely , because ..Australia... and just how many mechs are laying around in the 10-30's? not many I would guess ...
So turning it over to you wonderful gaggle of brethren with better knowledge than I !
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