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GGG posted:

That list is really larger when you thing about it.  LHS is ****ed.  He bought a case of those remotes.  After getting them he got the letter with sets it doesn't work with.  Many of which are sets he has in stock.  Especially the PE.  So how does this software update occur?  They do not have a system like MTH, so do you send your remote in, or do you send your train in?  Either way a logistical night mare.  G

Nothing needs to be sent anywhere, assuming the original firmware was done correctly.  The Universal remote is equipped with bluetooth, In fact it's microprocessor is actually the BLE module.  Any update should be as simple as downloading a 'Universal remote' app on to a smart device then tapping an 'update' button on the app.  This will send new firmware to the BLE module and update it's functionality.  I expect this would be a built in feature of the app that would be needed to select an engine that is not natively supported.  I suppose they could program in some convoluted system of button combinations to select engines directly from the remote, but that seems like a messy and overly complex way to do it where an easy to use smart device app could be used.  

I must admit I'm disappointed that an app for this purpose wasn't released along with the remote in the first place, after all it was shipped half a year late owing to a redesign to allow this functionality, but from a business stand point it makes some sense to see what the real demand is before committing the resources.  I think Lionel did a very poor job here of communicating that the remote would not work with all LC engines, especially for folks that placed orders at the time of announcement.  I can only hope an App/Update will be along in a timely manner.  

JGL

P.S. GGG, If your LHS ends up stuck with those remotes,  send me an email, I might be interested in buying the lot.  It's been on the back burner for a little while, but I'm using the guts in my Legacy/TMCC to LionChief bridge project, and I know there's at least enough demand for it to build a dozen.  

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PDDMI posted:

I'm using mine...best thing to come along since "sliced bread"!

Had family here yesterday...handed out the dedicated remotes for each engine to whoever was operating that particlular train. No chance of accidents that way and they all had a great time running them on the layout.

When I am running trains on my own...the Universal Remote will be in my hand!!! And Jon, will definately be looking forward to the future updates...

  

 

Hi Paul:   "Best thing to come along since "sliced Bread"

From reading your other "Thread"  /  Looks like "Sliced Bread" is now burned toast....

From your other post:

"Not sure if Lionel LLC is going to temporarily suspend sales of the defective Universal LC/LC+ Remote Controllers until a fix is found? Doing so, in my opinion, would give them some added incentive to making an update available sooner...rather than later!"

I am waiting for an answer to this issue, locomotives all stopping, when shifting between locos. I have reported this issue to Lionel / "Talk to us"  -  Hope to get an answer next week.

We will get back to you soon Lionel

Gary 

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PDDMI posted:

I'm using mine...best thing to come along since "sliced bread"!

Had family here yesterday...handed out the dedicated remotes for each engine to whoever was operating that particlular train. No chance of accidents that way and they all had a great time running them on the layout.

When I am running trains on my own...the Universal Remote will be in my hand!!! And Jon, will definately be looking forward to the future updates...

  

 

Hi Paul:   "Best thing to come along since "sliced Bread"

From reading your other "Thread"  /  Looks like "Sliced Bread" is now burned toast....

From your other post:

"Not sure if Lionel LLC is going to temporarily suspend sales of the defective Universal LC/LC+ Remote Controllers until a fix is found? Doing so, in my opinion, would give them some added incentive to making an update available sooner...rather than later!"

I am waiting for an answer to this issue, locomotives all stopping, when shifting between locos. I have reported this issue to Lionel / "Talk to us"  -  Hope to get an answer next week.

We will get back to you soon Lionel

Gary 

Gary,

Yup...maybe burned milk would be more like it!!! Having ordered the Universal LC/LC+ Remote back in December of 2015 and finally receiving it a year later...December of 2016, it was like getting my first train set in 1949 at Christmas. Of course...we all know how the "Grinch Stole Christmas"...back then though...never even knew there was a Grinch!

Glad to hear that you have reported your experience to "Talk to Us".

You mentioned earlier that you had some testing planned...and would report the results...anything yet?

PDDMI posted: 

Gary,

Yup...maybe burned milk would be more like it!!! Having ordered the Universal LC/LC+ Remote back in December of 2015 and finally receiving it a year later...December of 2016, it was like getting my first train set in 1949 at Christmas. Of course...we all know how the "Grinch Stole Christmas"...back then though...never even knew there was a Grinch!

Glad to hear that you have reported your experience to "Talk to Us".

You mentioned earlier that you had some testing planned...and would report the results...anything yet?

Hi Paul:  The grandchildren are coming over today for a day trip and next Tuesday for a over night trip. I will be doing my testing on these days.  

Hope to combine this information with the response from Lionel "Talk to us"

But at the end of the day, I like the LionChief Plus System.  

Gary

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