RivaRossi from Italy is known for their plastic trains in H0 gauge and later 0 and N gauge. In their early period (around 1950) however they made, with body parts supplied by an Italian toy maker (Inco Giochi), a tinplate locomotive and passenger car; this was made for 3-rail running in DC. These were also available in a train-set with tinplate rails and transformer. I found this RivaRossi locomotive and passenger car this week at a French seller:

Doesn't the front coupler look dangerous?

Regards

Fred

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sncf231e posted:

RivaRossi from Italy is known for their plastic trains in H0 gauge and later 0 and N gauge. In their early period (around 1950) however they made, with body parts supplied by an Italian toy maker (Inco Giochi), a tinplate locomotive and passenger car; this was made for 3-rail running in DC. These were also available in a train-set with tinplate rails and transformer. I found this RivaRossi locomotive and passenger car this week at a French seller:

 

 

Doesn't the front coupler look dangerous?

Regards

Fred

Very cool find Fred.  I assume you'll be on the lookout for additional passenger cars?

don

I am REALLY outclassed on this thread this week with all the really amazing stuff that you others have shared

I can only drool at some of the offerings !

Up until last night I didnt even think I would have anything new to me that I could share , but the train gods eventually smiled upon me and I brought a few more items to come live in the Southern Hemisphere with me

A not too fabulous Hornby MO locomotive and tender ...

This loco is possibly the most widely produced Hornby O gauge Model out there

A small Trackside Platelayers Hut

And a couple of Wells/Brimtoys Stations, signalbox's , these units were usually included in a boxed set as decor .

The red one with the signal is definately pre-war as it has the "Streetlamp" brimtoy trademark

I also picked up a couple of diecast early vehicles to sit on a flat car or by the side

A neat little English saloon car from Crescent Toys C.mid 40s?

And a Dinky Liverpool Market Farm truck ( both are about 4 " long ...

 

Clockwork guys have a spring in their step!

sncf231e posted:
Fatman posted:

 

And a couple of Wells/Brimtoys Stations , these units were usually included in a boxed set as decor .

 

Stations, are you sure? They look like signal boxes/signal towers.

Regards

Fred

Very correct .. my total brain fart

Score  Fred ...lots.... Fatman .. fail !!!

LOL!

Clockwork guys have a spring in their step!

Re-powered Marx Santa Fe 21 AA pulling MTH chrome plated plastic cars. (Sorry, my aluminum Lionel cars are still packed away.)

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When I first re-powered this engine, I was getting clickety clack sounds. I assumed the flywheel was hitting some of the metal tabs on the inside of the shell. I bent those tabs back today and solved the problem.

George

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Here is a "special consist"  iaw "Lionel Trains Standard of the World Vol 2" It was marked as set #7003 as a factory promotional special circa 1940.  Note this is not a "set" from an official collectors point of view, I just the put the proper cars together to make the picture.  I have no set box nor did these come as a unit.  The 258E is however the proper black and so are the cars are all the proper lithographed scheme for the set.

 

258E freight

258E Freight Set, circa 1940

258E loc0

258E loco in black, 1689 T RS "Lionel Lines"

258 E consist 1680 tank and 1679 Box

1689 S.U.N.X Aluminum Sunoco Tank   1679 litho yellow/maroon "Baby Ruth" box

258E consist 1682 caboose

1682 litho caboose, red / cream

Not that valuable and not even all that uncommon but they are 82 years old and I hope I'm up and running at 82

 Enjoy Tinplate fans (which includes me!)

Don

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George:  What a find!  The box is at least as unusual to find as the caboose.  Of all the things I saw in your picture, what caught my eye is the Tugboat "Neptune" in the background.  I actually have the same toy, by "TM toys", Japan although I have never tried to integrate it into a layout.  Obviously it must work OK with your Standard Gauge. 

Regards, Don

Tinplate Art posted:

GEORGE: How about a closeup shot of that interesting "Neptune" tug? THANKS!

Here you go...

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Could use some fresh batteries, but I don't plan on running it much. The battery compartment is super clean. When I got it, the light was disconnected. I fixed that as you can see in the video.

George

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Don McErlean posted:

George:  What a find!  The box is at least as unusual to find as the caboose.  Of all the things I saw in your picture, what caught my eye is the Tugboat "Neptune" in the background.  I actually have the same toy, by "TM toys", Japan although I have never tried to integrate it into a layout.  Obviously it must work OK with your Standard Gauge. 

Regards, Don

Hi Don,

Yes, it's Trade Mark Modern Toys made in Japan. Glad you pointed that out, because I thought it was Marx. Mine is missing a few parts, like the front bumper, and has a little rust, but it is in otherwise good and working condition. These can be very pricey for a mint version, but are reasonable in the condition I have. I think I actually got lucky on this one and got very good condition for the price of some of the lesser condition ones I've seen.

George

George...enclosed is a picture of my "Neptune" , like yours good working condition and no rust but it also is missing a few parts.  I have the front bumper but am missing that round tire bumper and one towing bollard in the stern.  I got mine quite some time ago when we lived in Pennsylvania and it seemed that both train and toy shows were common ( '87-'94) so I have no idea what I paid for it, but I don't remember it as being that expensive.  I agree, in mint condition it would be much more pricey.  I really like that you integrated it with the Std Gauge portion of your layout.  Since I run O'gauge except around the tree I never really considered it as part of a lay out...but Christmas is only 11 months away!!

Regards Don

  Neptune Tug Boat

 

 

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Winding up the weekend with a few pre-war Chicago Flyer freights.  When I set them out on the track, I realized that I have no information that these were ever offered together or even at the same time.  I did (sort of) find out that they seemed to be products of the middle 1920's but could not get any more definite than that. So, you Flyer experts, and I know you are out there, please forgive this grouping.  So why did I take the picture of them together, well while I was messing around, my grandson said..."You should take a picture of them all together".  When I asked why, he responded..."Because they are all red!"  So here you go for tinplate weekend...a group of "red ones"

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Winding up the weekend with a few pre-war Chicago Flyer freights.  When I set them out on the track, I realized that I have no information that these were ever offered together or even at the same time.  I did (sort of) find out that they seemed to be products of the middle 1920's but could not get any more definite than that. So, you Flyer experts, and I know you are out there, please forgive this grouping.  So why did I take the picture of them together, well while I was messing around, my grandson said..."You should take a picture of them all together".  When I asked why, he responded..."Because they are all red!"  So here you go for tinplate weekend...a group of "red ones"

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Don,

The 1112 boxcar and 1117 caboose certainly could have came together and would have been offered in the middle to late 1920s on those trucks.

The 1200 is actually a baggage car and would have came with similar red 1201 passenger coaches.  Based on the earlier trucks on this car, it was likely offered in the early 1920s.

Don

Here's a set from around 1930 which I purchased out of a home many years ago. There was no set box so I don't know the set designation. As you can see it has your two freight cars...well, sort of, the number on the caboose is 1114 and not 1117.

  The reason for the number difference is Flyer had different number designations for the same kind of lithography. The idea was that one number designation would be for 4 wheel cars and the other would be for 8 wheel.  However, it is obvious that needs on the production line overrode car number considerations because often one will find 8 wheel cars with 4 wheel serial numbers and conversely.

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I came across a Facebook post on Friday showing a Marklin CS loco in action, so that inspired me to get my older (but similar) CS66/13020 out for a spin. Couldn't lay my hands on the Marklin passenger cars, so two Bing English coaches stood in.

In the video you can also see the fruits of our labor over the holidays, we got the train layout moved about two feet off the wall, so now I have access to both sides. It was quite a job, but now it's like having a new layout after 20 years of it being up against the wall. No more climbing!

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Was doing some photo shoot practice this evening 

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I like the general look of the pano shot, but the Hudson keeps looking bent like the Pol Ex berk going around a curve

I believe the distortion is called parallax. Put the noses together at an angle to reduce.

 

Prewar Tin...Any maker, any gauge, anytime!

Guys really liked all your inputs and postings.  Robert Butler and NWL your data on the  sets from the 1930's and the dating supplied by NWL has helped me set these cars in their historical context.  Thank you both very much for taking the time to respond and supply much needed data. John Smatlak - what a great video of the Marklin CS loco traveling your layout.  You have some neat stuff on your layout, I saw some pre-war stuff, Lionel Power Plant, and a Marx NYC passenger set.  Quite a varied display but it looks super!.  Steamer - your freight pulled by a Marx type CP 391 engine really looks good as well.  Note - Steamer you mentioned that you had replaced an e-unit on an engine you just purchased, do you have a source of such repairs / parts you would recommend as I have two engines that I believe need new or repaired e units but there is nothing here in Central Texas that deals with this sort of thing, we don't even have a hobby shop in Waco.

Thanks guys. Great "talking" to all

Don

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