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A lot of cool things in the new Lionel Catalog, but I can't decide what I want, I am sort of happy they brought back a SP/UP Consolidation but yet I  won't be able to buy that and replace my older unit. The Heislers came back, so that might be an interesting sale. But why would someone by 3 versions of 844/8444? I think the selection of the UP FEF-3s are great, nice Catalog, the last couple ones were questionable in my opinion. Good job for Lionel. So what do you hope to buy from the new catalog?

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Originally Posted by Tim Lewis:

A lot of cool things in the new Lionel Catalog, but I can't decide what I want, I am sort of happy they brought back a SP/UP Consolidation but yet I  won't be able to buy that and replace my older unit. The Heislers came back, so that might be an interesting sale. But why would someone by 3 versions of 844/8444? I think the selection of the UP FEF-3s are great, nice Catalog, the last couple ones were questionable in my opinion. Good job for Lionel. So what do you hope to buy from the new catalog?

Me personally I'm going to get the new Lionel Norfolk Southern SD60E's. I'm getting the Veterans unit number 6920 and I'll also be getting the First Responders unit number 911. 
As for the 844. The reason they are offering so many different versions is because the 844/8444 has been in several different variations of the UP paint scheme depending on the year it was running. 
In the 60's and 70's it was black with white trim on the walkways and had white wall tires.

Then in the late 70's and early 80's it was painted in the UP greyhound paint scheme with the yellow strips (some greyhounds were white and others were yellow). Then when the 90's rolled around (and when it was renumbered back to the 844) it got a solid black scheme with white UP letters on the tender. A scheme which it's in to this day. 
The way Lionel is doing them will allow for someone who wants to model any time period the engine was in. 

Originally Posted by Stirling R. Callahan:
Originally Posted by Tim Lewis:

A lot of cool things in the new Lionel Catalog, but I can't decide what I want, I am sort of happy they brought back a SP/UP Consolidation but yet I  won't be able to buy that and replace my older unit. The Heislers came back, so that might be an interesting sale. But why would someone by 3 versions of 844/8444? I think the selection of the UP FEF-3s are great, nice Catalog, the last couple ones were questionable in my opinion. Good job for Lionel. So what do you hope to buy from the new catalog?

Me personally I'm going to get the new Lionel Norfolk Southern SD60E's. I'm getting the Veterans unit number 6920 and I'll also be getting the First Responders unit number 911. 
As for the 844. The reason they are offering so many different versions is because the 844/8444 has been in several different variations of the UP paint scheme depending on the year it was running. 
In the 60's and 70's it was black with white trim on the walkways and had white wall tires.

Then in the late 70's and early 80's it was painted in the UP greyhound paint scheme with the yellow strips (some greyhounds were white and others were yellow). Then when the 90's rolled around (and when it was renumbered back to the 844) it got a solid black scheme with white UP letters on the tender.

 

NOT "white letters on the tender". UP always used what they referred to as "bright aluminum" lettering & numerals, which looks sort of like silver. Should also have the "bright aluminum" roller bearing journal box covers too.
 

A scheme which it's in to this day. 
The way Lionel is doing them will allow for someone who wants to model any time period the engine was in. 

 

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I'm wondering if the SD60Es will be a new tooling all together for Lionel?

 

I'll probably order the three NS units, have a feeling they will be quite desirable.  

 

Would love to get a black FEF, I have the grey version from a while back, but will probably hold off to see what the next VL locomotive is....price is steep on the FEF...but I suppose in-line with their recent pricing. 

 

Best,

Michael

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