Got a bit done before and after I had to take the wife to a doctors appointment. Plus my package came from Scenic Express. Pays to live close.....One day service. I can go back to planting trees again but I may stay with re doing the track plan adding a couple of sidings. The two backgrounds are actually for the attic layout. I have an area where they will fill in the opening. Once I get my switches I can work on the grain silos although now I am thinking with the space I have and I found a pic of a brewery complex I may go that way. Pics of what I got and the track work just done. I am waiting for the paint to dry so I can put the track back down........Paul
Wow! Looking good, Paul!!
decoynh posted:Mark Boyce posted:My wife wonders if the first owners wanted rid of ours because she wasn't housebroken. The vet said she was about 8 months old when we got her. The old dog we had actually trained her. She watched him, and even though he was almost blind he followed the same path up the hill to the bush, then turn left and right to get back to the door. Now he has been gone 6 years, and she usually still follows the same path through the yard back.
We have had similar success with the older dog training a new pup or younger dog. Our black Lab, Tess, housebroke our new 8 week old yellow Lab, Hannah with never an accident in the house. Tess & Hannah were still with us when we brought home our current only dog, Gracie, a Bagel. They must lay down the law. We used to have a tiny cowbell hanging on a string on the door to go out. Hannah was the designated bell ringer. when she rang the bell they all went out to do their business. Now that the Labs have gone to the "rainbow bridge", 12 year old Gracie licks my hand when it's time to go out.
Train related: With Christmas and New Years coming up, there will be a lot of overtime here in NH unloading the BEER & ALE reefers and 20' Trailers for the Holy Grail Brewery & Pub and The Old Mystic Depot Restaurant. Time is of the essence because next will be reefers with Sausage, Ham, Vegetables & Dairy coming to town. Busy time of year!
Good story about the dogs!!
Yes, move those beverage cars along, so the food can be unloaded!!
J,
Been busy building a Ceiling type layout in the new home, take a look see in the Bracket's for ceiling layout I started, she is turning out nicely.
PCRR/Dave
Couple pictures of the building in process
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Decoynh, the brewery and pub sure look inviting! But your right need to move that beer, you can always bring it to Washington!
Paul, I guess it must be nice to get next day service! LOL Things are looking good~! Keep up the good work!
Dave, things are coming right along in the new train room / bar! once painted you wont even see the brackets!
Mitch, That sure did turn out nice, great job, but I don't think Norma Bates wants anything to do with it! Just from her look! LOL
Dave ( DARLANDER ) , I spent part of the evening after dinner trying to put the layout into perspective. Here would be the basic idea of what I hope to put together in the basement. Single track mainline with a lot of switching possibilities. Hopefully this diagram works. I have only posted pics here. Never tried a document...........Paul
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Not sure where to post this but this thread seems to be very popular.
New MTH 2018 catalog appears to have just been published (at least I got it in my email):
paul 2 posted:Dave ( DARLANDER ) , I spent part of the evening after dinner trying to put the layout into perspective. Here would be the basic idea of what I hope to put together in the basement. Single track mainline with a lot of switching possibilities. Hopefully this diagram works. I have only posted pics here. Never tried a document...........Paul
Paul, Thank you for taking time to draw up the plan. Now I can see what you are doing, and I am able to find the scenes on the drawing that you have been working on. So I take it that the future yard and staging area will connect the two ends to allow continuous running, in addition to lots of switching opportunities. The best of both worlds if that is it. Your plan makes good sense to me.
Dave, Thank you for asking Paul to show a drawing.
Thanks Mark. Yes, the back section will tie it all together. I was planning on three freight yards. Of course a plan can change but I will still have one mainline run around the layout....Paul
Nice Paul, now just like Mark and Dave, I can fallow along without being lost! Plus it is nice to watch how you treat different areas!
paul 2 posted:Dave ( DARLANDER ) , I spent part of the evening after dinner trying to put the layout into perspective. Here would be the basic idea of what I hope to put together in the basement. Single track mainline with a lot of switching possibilities. Hopefully this diagram works. I have only posted pics here. Never tried a document...........Paul
Thanks Paul for the sckematic. It is great to see how all the areas fit together. Always enjoy your project posts. Dave
Looking good Paul. I, too, appreciate the drawing. I think it's great the way you are creating little scenes in every available space in your basement.
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Thanks for posting a plan Paul. Makes following what you are building easy now. Should be a fun layout to operate.
Bob
paul 2 posted:Dave ( DARLANDER ) , I spent part of the evening after dinner trying to put the layout into perspective. Here would be the basic idea of what I hope to put together in the basement. Single track mainline with a lot of switching possibilities. Hopefully this diagram works. I have only posted pics here. Never tried a document...........Paul
The file appears to be right, and obviously Mark got it to show. But after the download I get an error, "file cannot be opened". The first pdf to fail on this device ever, but reminiscent of constant pdf failures I had here of a few years ago (on Windows then).
By coincidence, the "flip book" pdf catalogs have never worked well here either, and mostly not at all. I can't browse the new Lionel site either.. and the old site just started working before they shut it down and changed.(the archived part/ diagram section worked fine though)
Could someone with a minute post a screen shot for this computer age Shleprock?
Adriatic posted:paul 2 posted:Dave ( DARLANDER ) , I spent part of the evening after dinner trying to put the layout into perspective. Here would be the basic idea of what I hope to put together in the basement. Single track mainline with a lot of switching possibilities. Hopefully this diagram works. I have only posted pics here. Never tried a document...........Paul
The file appears to be right, and obviously Mark got it to show. But after the download I get an error, "file cannot be opened". The first pdf to fail on this device ever, but reminiscent of constant pdf failures I had here of a few years ago (on Windows then).
By coincidence, the "flip book" pdf catalogs have never worked well here either, and mostly not at all. I can't browse the new Lionel site either.. and the old site just started working before they shut it down and changed.(the archived part/ diagram section worked fine though)
Could someone with a minute post a screen shot for this computer age Shleprock?
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Today it was just a series of little jobs. Adding a section of track to the Sauerkraut factory siding. Now two reefers can sit at the loading dock. Ballasting and adding ground foam to the the tracks I change. Brought some trees from the attic I made up a while back to use on the basement layout and then it seemed like forever to clear the table off so I could start to cut in the switches. I decided that instead of doing cork under the sidings I cut some Masonite, painting them black to fit under the track. So one switch is ready to go. I'll get the other one cut in tomorrow. Pics...........Paul
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I saved the PDF so I can refer back as you continue construction. More good work again today, Paul!!
Adriatic, I hope you can get it to show, it's a great drawing! I'm still better drawing with pencil than CAD even though I am supposed to be an engineer. LOL
Ran this freight train. Great way to end the evening.
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Wire, wire, and more wire. Today I finished what I started on Tuesday, namely the detection panel for the big hidden yard. This is one of four panels made for enterTRAINment. The wires are coming from the various detection rails in the yard. Each of the black wires in the top row is connected to a single section of GarGraves on the yard lead. By counting the number of occupied sections, you can measure the train's length (to the nearest three feet).
Originally, every section of GarGraves in the entire yard was going to have its own detector. That is 200 detectors, and the train measuring was very important. However, after a runaway train incident a number of years ago, I decided to simplify and just go with 25 equal length "parking places". The next row and a half are those detectors. The bottom three rows aren't going to be used.
Next in line is the C/MRI panel. The final step will be to connect the inputs to the individual detectors. Beyond that is another detection panel. Note the bundle of wires hanging from the benchwork.
All 16 of the black wires and two sets of 5 colored wires came under the walkway through the PVC pipe. Fortunately, I had marked every one of them, but a number of them were too short to reach, so they had to be lengthened by splicing on.
Three of the five yard bundles came over to the panel from the other side of aisle two, through this pipe. There were also a bunch of other detection wires for the mainlines, that will need to be identified and connected to panel one.
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Arnold D. Cribari posted:Ran this freight train. Great way to end the evening.
About an inch to spare on the reversing loop WOW
very nice layout too!
Hey Paul, a bunch of little projects are better then none! Keep up the wonderful work!
Elliot, I know you have said its easy before, but looking at all that wire has smoke coming out of my ears just thinking about it. I am glad your doing it and I can just sit here and read about it! You da man!
darlander posted:briansilvermustang posted:looks GREAT Darlander, very nice scene !!! awesome idea
Thanks! Do you have a layout drawing that you could share in a post. Would love to see the big picture of what you are doing.
Dave
room: 24'x40' multi-level layout... yellow= walkways red= spring addition 12'x30'
bottom, floor level not shown...
floor level framing started in this picture...
been slacking, just running trains lately...
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Arnold, The train and layout look great!! I have one of the NYC operating reefers like you have on the head end. It and the ice dock are waiting patiently for a place on the new layout.
Elliot, That panel on the first photograph looks like something I have seen in power stations long ago! A bit of nostalgia for me since I have worked in telecom for many years since, and have had a desk job for almost 10 years now. All that to say, I'm impressed!!! On the other hand, simplicity is always my goal with electronics and wiring at home.
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briansilvermustang posted:darlander posted:room: 24'x40' multi-level layout... yellow= walkways red= spring addition 12'x30'
bottom, floor level not shown...
floor level framing started in this picture...
Very impressive Brian. Is the 12x30 area a building addition?
Another railroad that I'm looking forward to a GoPro ride along.
Nice pictures on your engines Brian, I also like your drawing of your layout. IMO its always good to just run trains sometimes!
yes, in spring, the addition shown on the left, later, another 12'x36' off the top right...
this wall, these 4) 8' sections get cut out from the black boards down, opening up 12' wider.
the mountain area will be from the boards up, 24 to 32" wide...around the main room...
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mike g. posted:Nice pictures on your engines Brian, I also like your drawing of your layout. IMO its always good to just run trains sometimes!
Thanks Mike, been working 11-12 hr days, come home, eat, grab a beer and run some trains for bit, then crash...
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briansilvermustang posted:yes, in spring, the addition shown on the left, later, another 12'x36' off the top right...
this wall, these 4) 8' sections get cut out from the black boards down, opening up 12' wider.
the mountain area will be from the boards up, 24 to 32" wide...around the main room...
Very spacious Brian! Love all the storage! Are you in a separate building or is this part of your home? I'm envious of the amount of real estate you are able to dedicated to trains!
Dave
I vacuumed!
separate building, someday to be tied to the house..
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Thanks guys.
Mark - The guy who designed and built the panels was an electrical engineer. I can't remember if he had some telecom background, but I want to say he did. Anyway, I'm trying to maintain his high standard for neatness, especially because there are so many wires to deal with. It is rather time consuming, but very satisfying.
Pine Creek Railroad posted:
You can paint the ceiling and make it part of your scenery. What to paint the ceiling is an interesting question that I have never thought of before. Clarke Dunham would probably do whimsical looking clouds with blue sky. The white you currently have is good for a polar express train. What you paint the wall just below the ceiling depends on where you want your trains to be, and where you want them to go.
Today my switches arrived. A few small things done. I made up two more pieces of Masonite for under sidings and got them painted and ready to go. Once I got the switches I started laying out the track for the Brewery, yes Brewery complex. I found a plan that will have a number of different sidings for unloading and loading for CO2 unloading, bottles, Canstock and cardboard unloading. Also Beechwood unloading, Diatomaceous Earth unloading and grain unloading. After laying out some switches that I had I found out I need to order some more switches. So that was it for today. Pics ......Paul
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Ran some trains... new to me ESE consist.
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I found my diagram of the Brewery I am going to do. Pic .....Paul
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Nice Paul, I will watch you build it , maybe I will copy you if that's ok!
That sure is a nice shiny train there Ted! Great looking and really like your Christmas layout! Thanks for the video!
Ted that's a beautiful ESE. What brand is it?
coach joe posted:Ted that's a beautiful ESE. What brand is it?
K-Line K-4670A NYC 4-PAC (15") Thx, they were a ‘99 issue I believe. A couple more would be nice. Legacy 6-82534 J3a pulling.
Mike, you gotta do what ya gotta do! Celebrate the season.
TedW posted:Mike, you gotta do what ya gotta do! Celebrate the season.
Thanks Ted!
Continued work on my enlarged ( thanks to Woodland Scenics) upper level town. I believe(??) I have ALL of the buildings I will need. Working on the remaining roads, curbs and sidewalks.
mike g. posted:
Mike;
How does that old song go - Christmas is for children??? Nothing to apologize for... in many ways, that train is truly Christmas.
A very merry Christmas to you and your family.
Big_Boy_4005 posted:Thanks guys.
Mark - The guy who designed and built the panels was an electrical engineer. I can't remember if he had some telecom background, but I want to say he did. Anyway, I'm trying to maintain his high standard for neatness, especially because there are so many wires to deal with. It is rather time consuming, but very satisfying.
I like neat wiring. It looks great, but helps in trouble or revisions!
mike g. posted:
I got that same set 3 years ago. I opened the loco and added some random screws for weight. I found it ran and pulled much better!
briansilvermustang posted:mike g. posted:Nice pictures on your engines Brian, I also like your drawing of your layout. IMO its always good to just run trains sometimes!
Thanks Mike, been working 11-12 hr days, come home, eat, grab a beer and run some trains for bit, then crash...
And the problem is??????
TedW posted:Ran some trains... new to me ESE consist.
VERY NICE Ted early Merry Christmas
Big_Boy_4005 posted:Thanks guys.
Mark - The guy who designed and built the panels was an electrical engineer. I can't remember if he had some telecom background, but I want to say he did. Anyway, I'm trying to maintain his high standard for neatness, especially because there are so many wires to deal with. It is rather time consuming, but very satisfying.
Looks good Elliot. I'm with you on the neat wiring. I used to do a lot of motor control centers. Everything had to be just right. I almost hated to put the covers on when I was done.
TedW posted:Ran some trains... new to me ESE consist.
Great looking set Ted. Said it a million times but again, the tree layout is second to none.
Bob
John D. posted:mike g. posted:I got that same set 3 years ago. I opened the loco and added some random screws for weight. I found it ran and pulled much better!
Thanks John, I will have to give that a try, it does seam to like to jump the track!
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almost done at work ready for some food, grab a beer, & run some trains with" IZZY"
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Now your talking Brian, That sure sounds like a great Start to the weekend!
well, till I get back here tomorrow... it will be fun...
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Finished up the track design! Fastrack sure hits the wallet hard
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Jack118711 posted:Finished up the track design! Fastrack sure hits the wallet hard
Nice layout Jack, but I hate to tell you all track Manufactures hit the wallet hard! LOL
HUGE day today!!! Patrick came over and some projects actually got done. He started off priming the backdrop behind Hastings and a couple small filler pieces on the west wall.
After lunch Patrick moved on to paint. We concluded that he primed this section two years ago.
Painting continued on to the freshly primed areas.
While Patrick was busy painting, I was making up feeder wires for the roundhouse and garden tracks.
With the painting done, it was time to install the very last backdrop section.
The big helix is fully wrapped. The band around the top is is the fascia, and will be black to "cap" the sky. It hides the top track, and as trains reach the top, they just rise and appear out of nowhere.
This is the only square corner on the entire fascia.
This is the part of the layout where BNSF trains appear on the east end, emerging from behind the new backdrop section.
This is the east entrance for CP trains at Red Wing.
Unfortunately, the helix fascia wasn't quite level, so there was a height mismatch at the apex. We were in the process of correcting this when it was quitting time.
Patrick may be back next week, but for sure in two weeks. Construction will be complete by the end of the year.
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Elliot, you and Patrick sure got a lot done in a single day! The back drops are looking really nice! At this rate you will be done in no time! But if your not I will keep watching the great work you and your friends do!
Elliot and Patrick,
Great Job guys, keep up the great work!
PCRR/Dave
mike g. posted:Elliot, you and Patrick sure got a lot done in a single day! The back drops are looking really nice! At this rate you will be done in no time! But if your not I will keep watching the great work you and your friends do!
Thanks Mike, but as you know a model railroad is never done. I'm just looking forward to the day when I'm not making sawdust anymore. That day is coming soon (I hope).
Its funny you say that Elliot, I am on the other spectrum! I cant wait to start making sawdust! LOL But I do know what your saying, this will be my 3rd layout build!
Big_Boy_4005 posted:mike g. posted:Elliot, you and Patrick sure got a lot done in a single day! The back drops are looking really nice! At this rate you will be done in no time! But if your not I will keep watching the great work you and your friends do!
Thanks Mike, but as you know a model railroad is never done. I'm just looking forward to the day when I'm not making sawdust anymore. That day is coming soon (I hope).
Elliot;
Building a layout is like doing home improvements... they are never done, they can only be stopped
Hopefully, you will never stop.
Spent the day up to my elbows in GG-1 guts. I came to the conclusion that the venerable Pittman can motor in the Gi-raffe GG1 had reached the end of its service life, so I dropped in a couple of newer motors from a Williams donor G. After a minor faux pax resulting in the twin motors pulling in opposite directions, the GGG-1 is now trundling along cheerfully.
I'm mulling over why it's tough to locate bottles with eyedroppers in them on eBay.
You see, I'm working on experiments with using baby oil for smoke fluid. Works good, but the train room has a distinct aroma of talcum powder about it now.
I DID amuse the checkout girl at the Dollar Tree. I said, "Corn oil is made from corn. Olive oil is made from olives." I held up the baby oil bottle. "Do the math."
Mitch
me & "IZZY" running some trains before bedtime...
goodnight...
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Mitch-I tried baby oil, not the best plus your train room will smell like a baby room at best. I started making my own smoke fluid and tried that stuff. Use something lighter weight and less smelly.
Mitch, check these out on the Bay!
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/eye-dropper-bottles
Brian, sure looks like you and Izzy sure are having some fun! You sure have a great train collection !
Been pondering what to build on the small platform over my tunnel. I finally decided to continue the cliff/ hillside out from the corner. Started carving the foam yesterday. Progress so far, I'll post more pix later.
I just bought some micro LED Christmas lights that will be wrapped on the trees for Christmas.
Bob
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Elliot - You are my inspiration when I don't feel like going down to the basement and getting something done, but do it anyway. There have been a few days like that recently, but I am always glad that I forced myself to do it. It is an amazing feeling to get something done even if it is minor in the grand scheme of things. In my case, it is very gratifying to see all these days of a few hours here and few more there amount to solid progress.
You are making amazing progress. Thanks for continuing to share.
Art
Bob, that carving looks great! what did you use ?
mike g. posted:Bob, that carving looks great! what did you use ?
Thanks Mike. I use a Dremel Multi-max with a 1" wood blade. A little messier than a hot knife but not too bad.
The carving is done in my garage so when I'm done the leaf blower takes care of the mess .
I scribed the stone face with a straight edge and a pencil.
Bob
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jim pastorius posted:Mitch-I tried baby oil, not the best plus your train room will smell like a baby room at best. I started making my own smoke fluid and tried that stuff. Use something lighter weight and less smelly.
Okey-doke! What do you recommend using?
mike g. posted:Mitch, check these out on the Bay!
Very nice bottles! Thanks! What I'm looking for, though, is something like the eyedropper bottle that Lionel uses. Being plastic, it won't shatter if dropped on a concrete floor...
Mitch
I used light oil and ended up using electric razor oil a beautician friend bought for me. When I dragged some of my Lionel steamers out of storage and ran them they started smoking so it didn't gum up. I didn't use the oil straight, though but you could try it. When I moved here I didn't bring any fluid with me or use it now.
Chugman posted:Elliot - You are my inspiration when I don't feel like going down to the basement and getting something done, but do it anyway. There have been a few days like that recently, but I am always glad that I forced myself to do it. It is an amazing feeling to get something done even if it is minor in the grand scheme of things. In my case, it is very gratifying to see all these days of a few hours here and few more there amount to solid progress.
You are making amazing progress. Thanks for continuing to share.
Art
If only those in power would be as industrious and get started rebuilding the railroads and infrastructure in this country! LOL
Chugman posted:Elliot - You are my inspiration when I don't feel like going down to the basement and getting something done, but do it anyway. There have been a few days like that recently, but I am always glad that I forced myself to do it. It is an amazing feeling to get something done even if it is minor in the grand scheme of things. In my case, it is very gratifying to see all these days of a few hours here and few more there amount to solid progress.
You are making amazing progress. Thanks for continuing to share.
Art
Thanks to all who hit the like button, the usual suspects, and some lesser heard from members as well. Don't forget, I'll be doing my monthly and year end progress report over on My dream/nightmare layout in a couple weeks.
Art - I used to be so active promoting the hobby to the general public, but ever since my cancer run in and subsequent recovery, I just haven't had the energy or desire to participate in train shows. Instead my focus has turned more inward, to working on my layout and hopefully inspiring others. I'm so glad you find your own motivation from my progress. That in turn motivates others as well. I see publication of our layouts in the not so far off future. If you build it they will come.
Elliot, you may have stopped doing train shows but you have not withdrawn from public. You are possibly exposing the hobby here with your posts of construction to many more people. And as has already been said you have been an inspiration to many to roll up their sleeves and build a layout. I know there are days that I say not today but I read one of your posts and I find myself back at work on my layout. And next year you will be having an open house that will have a lot of people coming to see it. I was busy today in a snails pace way. I got the first of three sidings in on the backside of the mainline. The Masonite worked very well for me and saved me some cork. With track down I added ballast then I added ground turf and got it all glued down. Of course while I was down there I had to do laundry but that makes for a work day rather then keep running up and down the stairs. Pics............Paul
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WOW Paul, your moving right along! Looking great!~
Great looking stuff Paul- the siding against the wall looks like it goes right into the plant in the backdrop.
Elliot- we are all here supporting your masterpiece, even from 1500 miles away. I think we all gain inspiration from your work, especially with what you have been going through with your health.
Bob
Did a test fit of the new scenic piece this afternoon. I'm happy with it so far.
Bob
Still need more ground cover and a retaining wall along the edge.
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Hell Bob, if my projects turned out like that I would be HAPPY all the time! Great looking!
mike g. posted:Hell Bob, if my projects turned out like that I would be HAPPY all the time! Great looking!
Thanks Mike!
RSJB18 posted:mike g. posted:Hell Bob, if my projects turned out like that I would be HAPPY all the time! Great looking!
Thanks Mike!
Sure is a hell of a lot better then my SEAHAWKS! LOL
mike g. posted:RSJB18 posted:mike g. posted:Hell Bob, if my projects turned out like that I would be HAPPY all the time! Great looking!
Thanks Mike!
Sure is a hell of a lot better then my SEAHAWKS! LOL
The Giants are 2-13...... need I say more
Looks great Bob, really nice touch and like it’s always been there.
I managed to get the last two switches in place and one more siding almost done and the Oil Refinery in place behind the first siding. I still have to add a bit more Masonite and track so three box cars will fit on the second siding. I ordered a number of black gar graves bumpers so once they get here I can finish off those sidings and start adding ground turf. I think the wife will say after supper how about spending time with me. And of course I can't say no because she is the CEO that lets me buy as I need stuff. Pics .......Paul
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Looking good, Paul!
Art
TedW posted:Looks great Bob, really nice touch and like it’s always been there.
Thanks Ted!
I really like it , Bob! I especially like how the rear track comes up between the wall and tunnel. Looks like a dandy place for a photo op !
Mike
Paul that sure is looking good, but I have a question, are you going to have room along the wall where the switch is in the second picture?
What did I do on my layout today? Went on a business trip to get supplies at a big box lumber yard.
1. Left the train room in a Ford 150, final assembly point, Dearborn, Michigan.
2. Looking for a lumber cart, need lumber for the train room.
3. I have a table saw in my garage, but no heat. The sign at the big box lumber yard says: “Free Cuts” at the panel saw. I like free stuff.
4. Check this out. I got home and I find this sticker on the lumber: “Made in China” - What happen to Michigan’s Paul Bunyan.
5. Open the paint and got to work. Ran out of time. Will have to finish this project later.
Gary
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Mike welkie posted:I really like it , Bob! I especially like how the rear track comes up between the wall and tunnel. Looks like a dandy place for a photo op !
Mike
Yes it does Mike W. I ran a short train up the hill with the new piece in place and it does look cool.
Thanks
TrainRoom Gary- Home Depot is buying lumber from China?????? Unbelievable!
I'm going to Lowes...maybe they still buy stuff made (grown) here!