What hasn't been made yet....that would actually sell?

I agree, they were very cool looking beast.

We have one here in VA called Coons Point, was a coal burner but recently converted to gas,  that guy at 1600 Pennsylvania had something to do with it. I would model it with the coal version!

John, you are a true funny guy. Still waiting for that perfect SP masterpiece. I need to send you a minced up pig meat sandwich with egg so you can just except what is given to you.

John P

 I need to send you a minced up pig meat sandwich with egg so you can just except what is given to you.

John P

In Mexico where I used to live we wrapped that up in a tortilla, called it chorizo con huevo, and ate it for breakfast. DELICIOUS!!! RIQUISIMO!!! 

Swafford's coal fired Electric Plant is surely needed, I'll take one in grey with red highlights.

Jack

Thanks, Southwest!  I had once seen K-Line box tenders for separate sale in a now closed hobby shop, but just the once in that place, but if I've seen K-Line Vanderbilt tenders, I overlooked them.  I did not know they were made.  My two efforts at kitbashing a box tender and a tank car to get examples were not...uh...prize winning.

Perhaps someone could repackage a "girl's train" with all the white and pastel colors into a Miami Vice commemorative set with Ferraris and Cadillacs on an autoloader and a speed boat on a flat!   

In case anyone is really interested, I would suggest that Ted Hikel's rebuttal to an earlier post is worth re-reading for a spot-on analysis of how things get planned in this industry.

I'm more saddened than surprised anymore by the continued lack of tolerance for things that are, in some people's minds, less than prototypical.

Todd Wagner

Oh yes it should!  It's about changing the existing mindset of those lost souls who have strayed towards the path of fantasy paint schemes on scale engines and lead them, by example, into prototypical enlightenment.

Apparently you missed the wink the first time around, so here it is again:  

Jim Weaver many years ago before he passed away has actually gone on record on more than one occasion stating to the effect that, aside from special low-volume custom-runs by customers/hobby shops and other extenuating circumstances like with cabooses, they would put only prototypical paint schemes on the appropriate engines and rolling stock during his watch.

A Standard Gauge Diesel Switcher in SP Daylight colors

"I wonder sometimes if this is the same thread that just keeps getting re-named.  There should just be a "please make" forum. "

what a great idea, then i could avoid opening these threads by just ignoring that whole forum.

I think an EMD E-2 would sell if it was in O Scale 

also an EMD SDP45 would sell as well 

Jim Weaver many years ago before he passed away has actually gone on record on more than one occasion stating to the effect that, aside from special low-volume custom-runs by customers/hobby shops and other extenuating circumstances like with cabooses, they would put only prototypical paint schemes on the appropriate engines and rolling stock during his watch.

Well either Jim was mistaken or he was just selling Blue Cool-Aid.  Yum!  Some of the prototypically painted but otherwise incorrect regular production Atlas boxcars are from the his time at Atlas O.  Not that there is anything wrong with that.  I own several of them.  But I do know which ones are wrong in detail and which ones are also the wrong dimensions.

It's about changing the existing mindset of those lost souls who have strayed towards the path of fantasy paint schemes on scale engines and lead them, by example, into prototypical enlightenment.

NO, NO, NO!  The sales of the MTH Z-6 are simply an illustration of the fact that the Great Northern had the nicest paint scheme ever widely applied to steam freight locomotives on an American railroad.  Model railroaders are correcting the GNs mistake by putting the best paint scheme on the best steam locomotives the GN ever had. 

In case anyone is really interested, I would suggest that Ted Hikel's rebuttal to an earlier post is worth re-reading for a spot-on analysis of how things get planned in this industry.

Todd

I'm glad that you found my comments reflected business realities.

If anyone here is interested in how really great O scale models can get designed,  tooled and produced Todd is one of the best guys to ask.  Anytime you admire some of those wonderful Lionel Standard O freight cars you should send him a thank you note! 

His post on this Lionel PS-1 thread is a fantastic glimpse into how some of the nicest O scale models available came to be.

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/t...s-file-updated-11811

Sorry John, I believe Ted is correct, Atlas has done cars on roads I collect that I can not find a photo or drawing anywhere in those color schemes, or no one ever had taken a photo of that model. I do not blame Atlas or any other manufacturer, they got make a buck.

I have my one :

Southern Railway Ms-4 class 2-8-2

SD45-2..........................

An SDP-45

And of course the Baby Face Baldwins

Swafford, we're on the right track needs more red maybe the 3rd story and all of the side structure on the left of the main building.  Thanks.

Jack

Sean I am with you,BUT.  Realistically there is not enough of us willing to pay the price for even Scott Mann to do these.  And absolutely no cost benefit for say MTH or Lionel to invest 200K to 2500K in tooling. 

And for me unless it would look VERY, VERY, VERY much like a Ms-4 it would not be worth any price.

Southern is not seen as a seller to the toy train makers.  I am just hoping that the High Nose GP-30s actually get made.  From what I know of their tooling approach on this I think there is a good chance.

Ron

 Model railroaders are correcting the GNs mistake by putting the best paint scheme on the best steam locomotives the GN ever had. 

 

Those aren't model railroaders, they're heretics! 

I kind of doubt that Lionel or MTH would find it profitable to do an SDP-45 or an SD45-2. You have to be a real diesel fan or rivet counter to be willing to buy the specialized versions of the SD-45 when the basic version has been made multiple times by everybody. I don't see a high-volume market there. 

That Baby Faced Baldwin is kind of cool, but too many people would think it was a very poorly done F-7 or something and refuse to buy it!   LOL

Ron,

With Lionel doing the Highhood Southern Geep 30 I feel there's still hope. 

I hope that Lionel would make the short drive up to Spencer to see 2601 in person. 

Plus if they numbered the locomotive in the catalog I would have jumped all over it since I had the chance to run her!

Agreed. Would also like to see the CF7 done. The CF7 is a logical choice for the following reasons:

• Santa Fe did them and ATSF converted dozens of F3's and F7's. While I have a personal preference for the "round top" units that retained part of the original F-unit body, the "Topeka Cab" units were produced in greater numbers.
• They were used in both local and long-distance freight operations
• Dozens of CF7's remain in service TODAY in branch line and private service, ensuring that a manufacturer could re-use the tooling in EVERY catalog for the next several years without doing a re-issue. On that front, because of the large number of them in the Santa Fe fleet, the ATSF livery could be re-issued with additional road numbers.
• Their smaller size makes them compatible with sharper curves in a 3-rail context; 36" radius in a 2-rail context.
• The sound units are already on file.
• Because many CF7's were seen hanging around with B-units, F3/F7 B-units can also be sold to go with these engines.

Sean, rest assured Lionel knows a lot about 2601 here.

Ron

The similarity in style to other locos with the"cab body" look is why I bet they would sell decent. Its an iconic shape. Like Lays chips, you cant have just one car-body, you've gotta have more. If only a fraction of E and F nuts bought one Baby face, I bet it would be worth the build. From a wish standpoint, its not even on my list. I don't own any of them(yet), but I like the Baby Face, over the E's, and E's over F's and most other diesels.

How about a good running Stephenson Rocket for a reachable price? Different enough to swing us all back into "fad" status? Doubt it. Dumb move? Maybe. But its even dumber that small river rocks were once sold as "pets" in a small thin cardboard "donut box" full of Easter egg hay for what would be equal or more than a $20 bill today. Hey they built "Jawn".   

SD70 in Illinois Central "Death Star" scheme with Legacy.

I believe MTH recently made a GP30 or GP40 with the older black paint scheme.

MT also made F3, F7, or E8 in Death Star, in both Railking, and Premier as a DAP.

Oh wait, duh, Metra cars and Metra engines.The price on eBay on these things is ridiculous. But that does not fall into the category of never made before.

There are new METRA Motive=Power Diesels and old METRA EMD diesel locomotives that have not been produced.

Which METRA Bi-Level Coaches have not been produced. The NIPPON Coaches have most likely never been produced in O Scale.

Andrew

Pet rocks.......gee, wonder who has a large collection of those lining the shelves in

their family room? They may have another room for Beanie Babies.  For something

that HAS been, and is, made, but consistently in the wrong gauge, and DC vs. AC, but right scale, are all the little logging (and other engines and cars) from Bachmann.  I approached them years ago wanting real sized Heislers, etc.  They weren't getting into

three rail, they said (and later bought Williams!). So, what is the obstacle now?  I

don't want the biggest dinosaurs that walked the earth, but the little raptors that moved the short logging and mining trains on forgotten railroads in logged off forests,

and tunneled deserts.

The Nippon Sharyo USA bi-level commuter coaches. For METRA and other commuter rail lines.

The Baby Faced Baldwin looks nice.  How many roadnames did they come in?  BigRail

There has not been the specific and Numerous ACF CENTER FLOW 4600 Cubic Foot Capacity 3-bay covered hopper. K-LINE, MTH and LIONEL offered the shorter and taller 4650 CU FT CAPY ACF CENTER FLOW 3-bay covered hoppers, yet the 4600 CU FT was produced in large numbers between 1965-1989. It is lower and longer.

O SCALE is big, yet details are left off and cast on the ACF CENTER FLOW covered hopper like these are cheap, little N SCALE models.

The O Scale ACF CENTER FLOW model is big enough to have all the side slopes and interior walls correctly shaped, but the models so far have been shaped like the cheap HO and N Scale Models. The discharge gates are large enough to be opened by fingers turning the gears to gradually open the gates.

The 4600 Cubic Foot ACF CENTER FLOW 3-bay covered hoppers correctly shaped and assembled to match the real covered hoppers have not been produced.

Andrew

Cruise control for conventional engines.

Tom B

A really good scale steel truss bridge in plastic with good details. There's countless of them in HO scale (and cheap, too) but none really for O scale. Atlas sort of mkaes one, but it's still pretty toy like.

Seriously, we're talking about one of the most common bridges used by RRs in America since the WW1 era and nobody makes a good model of one that isn't tinplate looking?

Eeeeehh maybe freight cars but not true for containers.  Virtually none of them have ever been correct.  Atlas copied the PRB containers from the 1980s which have been out of service since the early 1990s.  And yet all the schemes I have seen are post 1990.

I would like to see the United Air Craft Turbo Train done in an affordable, less complicated Rail King version. Also an Imperial RK version of the GG1, half way in size between the post war and scale size.