Why are Lionel Neil Young Sig Series AA Prices crashing?

I believe it's called supply and demand. Lionel made more NY engines than the market needed and dealers are reducing the price to move them out for new stock

 

It sucks, but one of the goals of the BTO system Lionel is going to is to alleviate this somewhat

Oh, I thought it was because no one wants a Legacy-equipped detail-lacking, another reiteration, wrong side-grill and fat roof-top fan, post-war F unit; and pay through the nose for it because someone famous endorsed it.

 

Now; a correct NYC Legacy F3A twin, with no steam generator details, a proper passenger-type pilot and both powered with smoke might be worth the $400.

 

Just IMHO...

 

Thanks,

-Mario

I couldn't find any that low.  About $500 was as low as I found.

 

 

I know I'll be called out on this, but to me, blowout prices are what the units were/are actually worth in the first place.

Yeah... but from early indications, it appears Lionel (and their overseas contractors) are botching up the "BTO system" big time by not even fulfilling Polar Express locomotive (black) orders.  All the details aren't in yet, but something is definitely amiss.  So much for BTO fixing all market ills. 

 

David

 

Could be that they were not as popular as Lionel had hoped and now its time to clear the warehouse.

Well, I never 'got' the combo of PW-style looks (or an attempt at it) with modern day

Legacy control. 

 

But maybe that's just me.

MTH makes PW clones in their Railking Scale line. Williams also makes PW clones, not to mention how many times Lionel has re-released these.

The market is saturated.

       
       


I never did either.

Ok, first of all, you're all right. Combo of PW and modern electronics, flooding the market, supply and demand, over pricing for a lackluster product and all the other arguments are true.  I don't think it was one over another.

John, you're not a jerk. Just a realist.

Wow- did not know this would be taken so personal.

Well I for one never understood the 0-27 cattle car with Vision line electronics either?

 

Sure its fun to play with, like the sound for about 5 minutes but holy cow why didn't they select a scale piece of rolling stock? Lord knows...

 

 

 

 

 

 

i love and collect scale F3/7's I like but I never found the N.Y. Versions that attractive even though I like the paint schemes. 

 

I think  trying to link old tech with new tech just does not work IMO. 

 

Maybe it is just you two.  

Nassau Hobbies, among others, indicated that orders have been very strong for the NY sets. I, and a number of people I know, are looking forward to the arrival of these sets. With the absence of LionMaster offerings anymore, somewhat smaller dressed-up sets with the latest electronics are welcome, particularly for those (probably the majority) with more modest-sized layouts. 

 

Besides, lots of folks like the postwar-type equipment. The PWC series was very popular, which added TMCC and RS to traditional trains. Now there's Legacy, so time to add that.  DC can motors and cruise - great additions that lots of people have been wanting for a long time.

 

In addition, Lionel now makes their "Postwar Inspired Sets," which of course they wouldn't be if they didn't sell. Finally, the LionChief/Lionchief Plus offerings have been huge hits, including with long-time operators. Traditional stuff with DC motors and cruise (like the NY sets) - lots of demand for this. 

I like em. 

 

Well, someone other than the Lord knows. Lionel knows, and those who have smaller layouts know too. Believe me, there are lots of people with smaller layouts who want the latest electronics and features to run on their layouts, too. Try running large scale stuff on, say, an 11x7 layout, or smaller (probably the majority), and you'll understand. 

It's not that difficult to fix the semi-scale issue with this car.  I have a $15 Weaver scale cattle car that I'm just going to drop the body onto this car.  Harry Henning did that mod, looks great, so I figured I'd do one as well.

 

Very well said.

 

Art

I love the PWC sets.  Classic looks with all the bells and whistles.  I have five of them.  That's enough.  I can see both sides of the argument.  I'm just a guy who thinks playing with toy trains shouldn't be about realism, but about fantasy and fun.  Rock on Neil.  You got some of my dough.  My favorite album is Zuma.  Listening to the songs, I think he was having women problems then.  Back to fantasy and fun...