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wb47 posted:

question, I assume the helper is actively assisting, how is it controlled?

Not exactly "helping", but placed in dynamic brake in order to provide a greater load on 844, what with such a short light train. There is a crew member on the diesel to control how much DB is desired for load. When in power (if needed), the diesel is MU'ed to the Diesel MU Control Box in the cab of 844, thus the Engineer in 844 has control of 844 as well as any trailing MU'ed diesel units.

breezinup posted:

Nice video. At 5:25-5:40 or so, you can see the drone at the top of the screen.

Hot Water, regarding the use of the diesel with its DB, what is the advantage of placing a greater load on the 844?

Well for one thing, it is mostly down grade from Speer to Greeley, so having the diesel in DB would even provide load for 844 going down grade. Since the whole purpose of that trip was a "break-in run", the more load added to 844, helps in proving out all the various systems during the trip. For example, using the Worthington Feedwater System WITHOUT the throttle advanced, pumps stone cold water into the boiler. Thus, working a heavy throttle, also proves-out the feed water system.

 

From a YT Railfan • Playtime, One Minute

Union Pacific #844 at Point of Rocks, WY. 4/18/17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QybanQ6Buhs

What I find interesting about the Union Pacific 844, is how many YouTube Creators, are publishing videos every day the 844 is back on the main lines.  As of today's date there are about five to twelve videos per day being posted on YouTube.

Also it is fun to look up the all the articles being printed in small town newspapers.  

Gary: Railfanning on YouTube.

As the 844 travels on the main lineS, thousands line the tracks to see the Living Legend 844 and thousands more are posting on  TWITTER. Here are two examples.

Photo by: Melinda Keckler‏ - Source TwitterA UP 844

What fun in Glenns Ferry today!! Thanks U.P Steam. My ears are still ringing, What fun in Glenns Ferry today!! Thanks U.P. Steam. My ears are still ringing, ha ha.

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Photo by: Linsey MaAfee - Source Twitter  •  Doing professional photography.

B U P 844

Gary: Rail-fanning on "TWITTER" 

 

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Kelly Anderson posted:
trainroomgary posted:

Photo by: Linsey MaAfee - Source Twitter  •  Doing professional photography.

B U P 844

 

Looks like the old "Railroad" magazine.  Nothing wrong with that!

All sorts of "issues" with that:

1) No safety shoes/boots.

2) No personal protective equipment, i.e. gloves.

3)  No high visibility vest/jacket.

4) She is holding the wrong handrail.

5) If those are safety glasses, there are no side shields.

6) Wonder what she's looking at, as she sure isn't looking where she's going.

Kelly Anderson posted:
trainroomgary posted:

Photo by: Linsey MaAfee - Source Twitter  •  Doing professional photography.

B U P 844

 

Looks like the old "Railroad" magazine.  Nothing wrong with that!

No offense intended if anyone knows who this woman is but.....this is simply an excellent example of a professional-grade, black and white photo of an attractive blond woman with the 844 serving as an amazing background.

If LIFE magazine was still around, this could be a cover photo.  It's THAT good.

A Short Story

I found this image today.  I like it because it is high contrast B&W.  I taught High School Graphic Arts and Photography for 36 years.  In the Darkroom, we used to use Kodak Poly Contrast Paper, with a No. 5 Poly Contrast Filter.  This process would have been done with an enlarger, and three chemicals, Dektal Developer, Stop Bath, and Fixer.

Now we can scan old negatives and process them in Photoshop.  I still have a home darkroom but I only use it for special projects.

A modern digital image is made up from dots and a Classic B&W Print, has no dots, called continuous tone.  Some of my clients still want continuous tone.  All the chemicals, film and photo paper are still available.  

B U P 844

Source: "TWITTER"  •  Copyright Infringement NOT Intended.   Gary

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Berkshire President posted:

So Gary.....is the woman in the photo Linsey MaAfee....or would that be the photography.

There are SO many cool aspects of that photo, IMHO.

Hi Berkshire President:  The information below is from the Photographer's "TWITTER" account.      https://twitter.com/photobyav2bme     Linsey McAfee    

"I'm a self taught mom and wife who is always learning. I'm a self taught photographer who is always learning. Photos posted here are my own work unless noted."

TWITTER Linsey McAfee Photographer

At this point the person in the photo is not named, if you can figure it out, please let us know.

 Gary: Rail-fanning on "TWITTER" 

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Nah....I actually like how grumpy Hot Water is.  I find it oddly refreshing in a world too d*mn politically correct.  He unabashedly speaks his mind and doesn't mince words.  I applaud that, frankly.

And grumpy or not, Hot Water is a tremendous source of information and an extremely knowledgeable railroader....real and model.  He's also had a career many of us are envious of.....and he did so covering some of the best scenery in the Country, IMHO.

Berkshire President posted:

While one man's coffee is another man's tea, I (personally) don't think it gets any better than Big Steam out West.....like this.

I  think so, too. I'm here in the east, with some heavy mountain coal drags and such, but .... seeing 844 blasting the big, western terrain is cool.

Matt01 posted:
 

Looking forward to what's coming next from the UP Steam Shop.

Me, too.  Already spoke with the wife about bringing our now-grown sons out to Wyoming to see 4014  run!  Thanks, UP steam shop.

And, thanks to everyone for posting about 844 here.

Jim

Dominic Mazoch posted:

The pic looks like something for a clothing line.  Great if there was permission form a UP official.

Permission Granted

At every stop that the U P 844 makes, U P officials invite the press, and the public onto Union Pacific Property to see the 844 up close.  They have tour guides that can be seen in this photo, (bright green safety vests), telling the public all about the 844 and making sure the public stays safe.

UP 844 in Gooding Magic Valley

At some stops, the Union Pacific sets up a temporary walk way up to the cab, so the visitors can enter the cab on one side and exit on the other side. This gives the visitors into the cab, a chance for some great photos.

Gary: Railfan      Source

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Hot Water posted:

Photo by: Linsey MaAfee - Source Twitter  •  Doing professional photography.

B U P 844

1) No safety shoes/boots.

2) No personal protective equipment, i.e. gloves.

3)  No high visibility vest/jacket.

4) She is holding the wrong handrail.

5) If those are safety glasses, there are no side shields.

6) Wonder what she's looking at, as she sure isn't looking where she's going.

I am on a general photography forum and I saw a shot that is somewhat similar, taken in Europe. Imagine this shot by the model wearing high heels and nothing else.

Anyway, some train fan on the forum ripped the photo for all kinds of stuff like this, train-related. Among many things, he pointed out rust on the wheels and rods of the steam locomotive in the background along with things like above. Someone replied very simply, “I have to ask, did you notice the model AT ALL?”

The first guy never responded. I wonder if he noticed, as well!

trainroomgary posted:

From the FBI Photographic Division.

Steve Lee UP Steamshop FBI Photographic

Gary

Sorry, but both the FBI and you are STILL incorrect!!!!!  That is DEFINITELY NOT Steven A. Lee. However the vehicle was indeed assigned to the manager of the UP Steam Crew, at that time. Besides, I've been good friends with Steve Lee for more than 30 years, and can guarantee that that is NOT him in that photo.

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If its not Steve, you can see the confusion. Looks a lot like Steve in the below photo ... just a few more pounds and such.

lee

Anywho ... really enjoying all the videos of 844 on the internet. The modern, high-def stuff that some people are getting .... contrasts from the older "vintage" films, which are also cool to watch.

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We all know who this is...............

Frame 16:17 • Idaho on “Shake Down Run”  -  This is the only YouTuber, that pointed out Ed  Dickens.  This YouTuber and his wife narrates the entire video with historic U.P. 844 facts and present day information. Published  May 7th., 2017

Toy Man Television Ed Dickens

I feel this is one of the best YT videos on this run, because of the narrators knowledge on this subject. He says he is going to Cheyenne Steam Shop in two weeks and hopes to get a interview with Ed Dickens, Senior Manager of Heritage Operations.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ljv3EMAgmU&t=17s

Gary: A YouTuber, Rail-fanning on YT

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Matt01 posted:

Fun to watch! Thanks ....

Anyone know who this gentleman is? ...

UP-Lee

I think that's Rod McClure.

He was a diesel engineer with UP, and I believe  ran some UP Steam with Steve Lee and Ed Dickens. Very involved with Western Pacific's historical society and museum. Passed away last year.

When Steve Lee was at his heaviest, and let his hair go gray, the two did somewhat look alike. Those red lenses.

Thanks for posting that new video, Kent .... very enjoyable.

I guess that was Ed Dickens' wife with him in 844's cab ... in Gary's video?

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trainroomgary posted:

We all know who this is...............

Frame 16:17 • Idaho on “Shake Down Run”  -  This is the only YouTuber, that pointed out Ed  Dickens.  This YouTuber and his wife narrates the entire video with historic U.P. 844 facts and present day information. Published  May 7th., 2017

Toy Man Television Ed Dickens

I feel this is one of the best YT videos on this run, because of the narrators knowledge on this subject. He says he is going to Cheyenne Steam Shop in two weeks and hopes to get a interview with Ed Dickens, Senior Manager of Heritage Operations.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ljv3EMAgmU&t=17s

Gary: A YouTuber, Rail-fanning on YT

I've subscribed to the ToyMan Television guy for a while now. If you look through his uploaded videos there are some decent layouts plus real train videos like this last one.

He did a great job on this one.

Hopefully I can get some time off and make it up to visit the UP steam shop and train show at Cheyenne Depot Days may 20-21.

https://www.cheyennedepotmuseum.org/calendar

EBT Jim posted:
Matt01 posted:

Fun to watch! Thanks ....

Anyone know who this gentleman is? ...

I think that's Rod McClure.

He was a diesel engineer with UP, and I believe  ran some UP Steam with Steve Lee and Ed Dickens. Very involved with Western Pacific's historical society and museum. Passed away last year.

When Steve Lee was at his heaviest, and let his hair go gray, the two did somewhat look alike. Those red lenses.

Thanks for posting that new video, Kent .... very enjoyable.

I guess that was Ed Dickens' wife with him in 844's cab ... in Gary's video?

thank you, ebt jim

I may be having more questions for you. i'm putting faces to names i'm reading about. in addition to following the rebuild of 4014, i'm interested in the group that brought up 3985 back to life. thanks, again

and, yes, that is ed dickens' wife with him in the cab, on some of 844's journey

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Matt01 posted:
EBT Jim posted:
Matt01 posted:

Fun to watch! Thanks ....

Anyone know who this gentleman is? ...

I think that's Rod McClure.

He was a diesel engineer with UP, and I believe  ran some UP Steam with Steve Lee and Ed Dickens. Very involved with Western Pacific's historical society and museum. Passed away last year.

When Steve Lee was at his heaviest, and let his hair go gray, the two did somewhat look alike. Those red lenses.

Thanks for posting that new video, Kent .... very enjoyable.

I guess that was Ed Dickens' wife with him in 844's cab ... in Gary's video?

thank you, ebt jim

I may be having more questions for you. i'm putting faces to names i'm reading about. in addition to following the rebuild of 4014, i'm interested in the group that brought up 3985 back to life. thanks, again

I'm no expert on any of this stuff, Matt. I just started reading up on the UP Steam Program when 844 was being worked on. And, will be following the major work on 4014.

However, Bob Krieger was part of the group that "brought 3985 back to life," right from the beginning. I never personally met the man, but ... he is a very helpful, informative, friendly, down-to-earth man ... a wealth of information.

He is online a bit, but he is an officer at the UP Historical Society. He's such a nice guy, and wants to be helpful, that you might consider a membership in UPHS.

Still .... I'd try to answer any questions you have.

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I've been friends with Bob Krieger for more than 35 years, plus I fired for Bob for about 17 years, prior to Steve Lee's retirement from the UP in December 2010. The restoration of 3985 was done by employees of the UP, out of Cheyenne, on their own time, beginning about 1978. Many of those employees are no longer alive, but Bob, being one of the "originals" is still available for assistance.

 

Edit:  Just a suggestion, you might want to begin a separate thread if you want to discuss UP 3985.

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