My boss stored about 100 of those trailers on our yard a couple years ago we pick them up at Edwarsvile Il. And pull them to the yard it was a lot of fun. Here’s a pic of me getting ready to hook one. Then last year I caught this guy rolling through St. Louis
Great pics, Lee.
I don't understand why the Roadrailer idea didn't catch on. When Santa Fe did testing IIRC they found an astonishing fuel saving.
Lew
Catenary poles for the trolley have been relocated and it’s now possible to get a picture pole free of the engineers side of the locomotive .
I would sure like to see this back on rails pulling excursions from Calgary to Banff or Lake Louise and back.
That’s my fantasy as was seeing a UP Big Boy back running again lol
Second picture includes my personal assistant Lola
Al
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Neat pic, Brian: Amrak Alco Under Catenary.
Lew
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Well, three pics actually:
Eastbound Capitol running [very] late
A couple miles East of Meyersdale, Pa
That's what once was the Western Maryland bridge over the B&O.
Pics taken in '98 with a Kodak digital camera.
Lew
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Lew, Very nice real-life shots. I saved them all because they are instructive, giving excellent examples of the terrain in which RRs can be set. The natural colors are especially informative, also, with the rocks and bridge you shared with us.... ...being images worth trying to attain on a layout, IMO.
Your photos have helped assure me I did not overdo my weathering of the layout bridge seen here; however, I can see from your photo that I could have been bolder with weathering this bridge... Also, I always felt I should have/could have given the bridge abutment some serious weathering and regret that I did not, especially judging from your photograph. I appreciate your contribution of these photos to this thread very much, indeed.
FrankM
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Moonson posted:Lew, Very nice real-life shots. I saved them all because they are instructive, giving excellent examples of the terrain in which RRs can be set. The natural colors are especially informative, also, with the rocks and bridge being images worth trying to attain on a layout, IMO.
Your photos have helped assure me I did not overdo the bridge, here, but I always felt I should have/could have given the bridge abutment some weathering and regret that I did not.
FrankM
Yup, your bridge is just right wrt weathering. B&O and WM is/were very interesting examples of mountain railroading between Pittsburgh and Cumberland. Gentle grades for many miles following the Youghiogheny River on the West and heavy short grades on the East getting up to Sand Patch and Deal. That was my stomping grounds for 11yr and I'm sorry now I didn't take a lot of pics but that was mostly pre-digital and film was expensive.
Lew
3rd class train waiting for the 2nd class train to pass. The engineer always had his camera in his grip.
Good days (except for that 70's hair).
David Townsend photo.
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briansilvermustang posted:
I wonder what the purpose of those rings on that boxcar are for. If the train is moving at any speed they won’t prevent damage to the tank as the train will not be able to stop that fast.....::.
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A hundred pages and still alive . . . that's success.
Heading towards 101:
7yr old gazer looking for a train somewhere between Liberal, Ks and Dalhart, Tx.
Aha!
And yes, on the Rock Island. I can't tell from the pic whether those are passenger cars or box cars because of the dust. That dust makes me think he's really rolling so that may well have been The Imperial. From the. shadows it was noon-ish and that agrees with my 1958 Rock Island time table and it would have been very much like my Dad to plan a roadside lunch stop at the right time to catch a passenger train.
Lew
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GREAT photos Lew !!! awesome !
Congratulations Brain!!!!
briansilvermustang posted:
GREAT photos Lew !!! awesome !
Dad obviously had fun setting this up. Of course it helps that he was an excellent photographer.
Lew
Thanks Patrick !
especially for all the great photos you have posted here
geysergazer posted:
It's a passenger train, all right, and I would agree with you that it is the Imperial. Taking a look at the track, you can see why it was always a rough ride on the Rock Island. But it was a fast rough ride.
And as an aside, last weekend marked 39 years since the Rock Island shut down forever.
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Nice photo, Brian! Fireman's door open and he has his foot propped on the frame. Rounded nose looks like an Alco.
Lew
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Aha! Steam turbine electrics, predecessors to the UP Big Blows.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._turbine_locomotives
Lew
THANKS LEW
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briansilvermustang posted:
I like this pic, I cropped it and set as my background on my puter.
so did I!
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A few posts earlier, Geysergazer commented about the relationship between the experimental oil-fired steam-turbine electrics GE built for Union Pacific and the gas-turbine electrics GE built for UP a number of years later. Other than having 'turbine' in the name (and the same builder), I'm not sure there was much of a descendancy, was there? The first experimental turbines were basically small 'conventional' thermal powerplants, using oil to heat water to produce high pressure steam to drive the steam-turbine coupled to a generator. IIRC, these never got beyond test-driving the 'look what I built' stage. The gas-turbine electrics (GTELs) were based on an actual combustion turbine (think jet engine) to spin the generator. UP had something like 55 GTELs in three versions and a lot of revenue miles. As a kid I saw many of the GTELs in action and in my mind, I had imagined them being powered by the thrust of the jet turbine. Not so, of course - only later learning that they were actually turbine-electrics.
Apparently the UP/GE experimental steam-turbine locos actually had a closed steam loop with an air cooled condenser stage (one wonders what the Carnot efficiency was when it wasn't moving...). The GTELs did actually have a successor - albeit a short-lived UP built coal-fired combustion turbine (whose failure mode you'd think would have been predictable - finely divided coal ash played heck with the turbine blades).
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briansilvermustang posted:
Does anyone know what was in the gondola at the front of the train?
Very cool picture Brian!
Looks like L.C.L containers. Doug
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Rich is such a nice man. But I can see in his eyes, there, that something has been lost to him, or about to be absent from his life and experiences.
FrankM
richs09 posted:A few posts earlier, Geysergazer commented about the relationship between the experimental oil-fired steam-turbine electrics GE built for Union Pacific and the gas-turbine electrics GE built for UP a number of years later. Other than having 'turbine' in the name (and the same builder), I'm not sure there was much of a descendancy, was there?
Sure there is a lineage and important connections and similarities between the original steam-turbine-electrics (STELs we might call them) and the fleet of later gas-turbine-electrics (GTELs). The STELs were first assemblage of the idea into an operable locomotive and the GTELs thus descended from that idea. Both used electric transmission re-purposed from diesel-electric technology. Both were an attempt to re-purpose existing technology/hardware for railroad traction. In the end both were a flash-in-the-pan. For many years UP management was enthralled with giant locomotives but the assembly-line F/GP/SD units have triumphed. The GTEl fleet at least worked but could not ultimately compete against the [modern] Diesel-Electric which was, after all, designed and developed from the ground up for railroad traction. EMD quickly gave up on the Winton engines because they were an attempt to re-purpose marine machinery. Alco had similar experience with the 539 which was a marine engine.
Lew
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The station sign says Crete, Ill so it's the C&EI
Lew
Found this today...765 herself on the cover of a Batman comic.
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so does that mean Rich Melvin is really Bruce Wayne?
briansilvermustang posted:
This was probably Summer '54 in probably Lordsburg, Nm. Dad toke this pic to mail to the engineer because he loved running the Daylights. Skirting still in place in this pic.
Lew
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Steamer posted:so does that mean Rich Melvin is really Bruce Wayne?
I can see the resemblance
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gotta go with the best!
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your bridge looks GREAT Dennis !! very nice !
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Lee, that's a great model you put together, nice load too. I can't tell from that picture, are the windows of the Mack glazed or not?
Patrick, nice pulpwood load. Did it come with the bulkhead flat?
Bill T, "When it rains it pours"
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What a great pic, Brian! On of the Eagles!
Lew
lee drennen posted:
Lee, you made me think of the time I rode shotgun with my friend Jim hauling stainless coils into NYC. He had to back a 53' covered wagon clear into a building and up to a dock, turning 90 degrees to the two-lane city street in the process.
Lew
Dennis,
Very nice indeed!
Chris
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coach joe posted:Lee, that's a great model you put together, nice load too. I can't tell from that picture, are the windows of the Mack glazed or not?
Patrick, nice pulpwood load. Did it come with the bulkhead flat?
Bill T, "When it rains it pours"
Joe it has a nice Windshield with wipers here’s a better pic
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geysergazer posted:lee drennen posted:Lee, you made me think of the time I rode shotgun with my friend Jim hauling stainless coils into NYC. He had to back a 53' covered wagon clear into a building and up to a dock, turning 90 degrees to the two-lane city street in the process.
Lew
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I know the feeling I deliver in the city now I had to quit the road runs for my company after 23yrs with them due to my arthritis in my hips and knees now they let me run the city all day and I love it this was a very tight place to get in it reminds me when I use to run to New York City back in the early 90s when I first started driving a truck.
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Wreck train with a Big Hook!
I have had the privilege of watching a Big Hook at work. As I remember it everything pretty much moved in slow-motion.
Lew
Dad took this pic Summer '54. Climbing towards Silverton.
In those days it was still a mixed train.
Lew
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briansilvermustang posted:
Thanks for posting Brian! I believe this is at WABIC interlocking, Decatur, IL. looking East. The tall building in the background looks like the A.E. Staley Mfg. Co. Office building, to the right of the smoke stack. The switch and the signal directly in front is the lead running from the Wabash RR to the B&O yard.
Rusty
briansilvermustang posted:
That’s a fabulous picture, Brian. Do you remember where you were when you took it???
But seriously, do you have any additional info on the scene??? It looks like the “bus” says NYNH&H (New Haven, I assume), but the sign on the building in the background says Ferry to Newburgh which could be Newburgh, NY which makes it seem like the tracks would be on the Hudson Line, possibly near Beacon, NY (there is still a Beacon - Newburgh Ferry). I didn’t think the NH ran on the Hudson Line. Hopefully, one of our resident historians (@MELGAR) will chime in.
Thanks for sharing.
Dad took this pic years before I was born. Prewar, of course. That was a Brookville Locomotive product. The Dents Run RR, originally built as a logging pike, ran from interchange with the Pennsy a few miles up Dents Run to a coal mine.
Lew
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Fs in the Fog!
I can't tell if the hood units are Geeps or Alcos.
Lew
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Nice photographic work, Brian!
Lew
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The brush and tree limbs rubbing the sides of the GMTX 3105 and it's train is an FRA defect for sure. I bet they were getting wheel slip running through that high grass and weeds as well. I hope that unit has plenty of sand. Where is the brush cutter and spray truck? It's not a good time running a train through stuff like that.
Rusty
Wow. Talk about an idea whose time never came. Lookit' that tare weight! Containers doomed that setup. To be fair though, while containers have an extra advantage wrt railroad tare weight the opposite is true of trucks+containers. Stackable containers with truck tailer chassis under them are heavier than truck trailers. It's real easy to be overweight on the highway.
Lew
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briansilvermustang posted:
Brian;
I had always heard of Seatrain, but never knew what was involved... absolutely fascinating. Thanks for sharing.
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TRUMPTRAIN, What a spectacular view! No exaggeration. When I saw that photo of part of your layout, my mouth fell open, for real. And yes, that pun was intended - your modeling is "for real"!!
briansilvermustang posted:
Brian, handing up orders is why my Grandad quit railroading. He was holding up an order hoop and was a bit too close so took a glancing blow to his shoulder from the cylinder as it came past. Hurt his shoulder and that was enough for him.
Moonson posted:TRUMPTRAIN, What a spectacular view! No exaggeration. When I saw that photo of part of your layout, my mouth fell open, for real. And yes, that pun was intended - your modeling is "for real"!!
Ditto, ditto! That is a great pic, Patrick.
Lew
briansilvermustang posted:
Brian, that eggcellent pic gives new meaning to the term "retiring", doesn't it?
Lew
Aha! Couldn't figure the old locomotive (an EMC AB6) with modern equipment. Wiki-thingy to the rescue:
"In 1965, the units had their steam generatorsreplaced with head-end power and were reassigned to push-pull suburban service in the Chicago area. In this form, they lasted until the mid-1970s"
Lew
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briansilvermustang posted:
Perfectly safe, not a problem!
briansilvermustang posted:
Whatthe….???!! ......could that man possibly have been doing under there that would have made any difference whatsoever. I mean, look at his - at anybody's - delicate hands (compared to tons of iron?metal!!!) And whoever sent him there to do that should have been arrested for reckless endangerment and for being a total fool.
I'm serious. It takes a great deal to get me ticked-off , but that endangerment of that poor worker is criminal. IMunHO.
FrankM
Moonson posted:TRUMPTRAIN, What a spectacular view! No exaggeration. When I saw that photo of part of your layout, my mouth fell open, for real. And yes, that pun was intended - your modeling is "for real"!!
Frank - I can't begin to tell you how much your words mean to me! I consider you as one of great gurus of imaginative scenery creation and your feedback on this photo deeply inspires me and makes my day!! Much appreciated! Thank you!!!
Moonson posted:briansilvermustang posted:Whatthe….???!! ......could that man possibly have been doing under there that would have made any difference whatsoever. I mean, look at his - at anybody's - delicate hands (compared to tons of iron?metal!!!) And whoever sent him there to do that should have been arrested for reckless endangerment and for being a total fool.
I'm serious. It takes a great deal to get me ticked-off , but that endangerment of that poor worker is criminal. IMunHO.
FrankM
I am trying to figure out what he is doing. I hope that break was set. If that jack would kick out that fellow will get his back broken. Besides how old is the poor old fellow looks to be in his seventies. It is a very hard way to make a living , it must have been a dangerous life to live in those days.
trumptrain posted:
Loved your story on the other thread about the boys who saw your layout. It takes a pretty spectacular layout these days to awe the young generation - good on you!
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Perfect, Brian, a vintage (1960) Peterbilt moving a vintage (1905?) steam engine. Nothing could be more fitting. One runs on boiling water and has manually-lapped air brake valves, and the other probably has a Cummins 220 or 262 and a twin stick transmission. No automation in either one.
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Interesting photo. Two baggage cars sandwiching a pig. And the truck trailers are painted in matching GN livery.
Lew
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Frank,Moonson posted:
Frank,
Did U ever hear the real Story on Moondog Streets? I did! If not, & you want the story, E-Mail me & I will fill you in! I purchased a great deal of their Product for my last Layout! It was 50’ x 40’.
Fred
briansilvermustang posted:
that is really neat
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briansilvermustang posted:
Looks like this engineer likes running his cab-forward long hood forward. Sorry... couldn’t resist
old habits die hard
briansilvermustang posted:
There has to be some kind of story here, with all the people watching and the police hanging around.
Do you have any idea what was going on in this photo?
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That little adventurer is so very much in-charge of the moment. It's wonderful to see, a real toy train communication between them.
Bill T, those Menard's trucks are fabulous.
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briansilvermustang posted:
Brain - this photo captures that very special experiential moment that so many of us have had as young kids! Nothing like it! We all try, and hopefully succeed, in connecting with this little kid inside all of us each time we play with our trains. Just look at that little guy. No scenery. Just a simple loop of track and a train. His imagination must be going wild! What fun!! Thanks for sharing Brain!
Just a boy and his trains...
Nearly 9 years later, I still have all parts of this set, and most are still functional!
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Approach on the "White line".
Rusty
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TrainMan1225 posted:
That was my first set! Good ol Pennsylvania Flyer! Had to repair mine and buy a second identical set for parts/replacement gondola and boxcar at the Greenberg train show. The cars got damaged from being left on the floor at Christmas and the Engine got cotton snow in the gears but I got the 8632 running again. This was after my Uncle tried to fix it but passed away before he could complete the project. It’s my most cherished train due to the close connection to my Uncle John, my dad, and my grandmother. I always think they’re smiling down from heaven when I run that train.
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Talk about an oxymoron, those Daylight colors over a snowplow!
Great photos Lee !! looks like you had a wonderful week !
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briansilvermustang posted:
Oh, boy, there HAS to be a good story to this!
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Here's a couple of pics this week. I was working with some recruits on auto x and air bags. Both the training sites are by the BNSF lines. It's a great place to sit back and watch trains.
And last is STAIN.
I did miss a Illinois Central engine that day. My phone was in the cab of the truck. I have not seen them run through Lincoln before. Have a great weekend. Nick T.
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Great pictures everyone, and T8AFAO, neat BNSF pictures and the graffiti writing on the hopper car, wow, Briansilvermustang, Great Pictures Of the Kansas City Southern diesel in the work shop disassembled, P51 Lee, Great Pictures from your recent vacation trip, Wow, Bill T, great commemorative diesel, red/white/blue, and your scenic details, very nice, Trumptrain, Patrick W, very nice pictures, very colorful scenic details, the man getting on the J, very nice, Number 90, Tom, I like your historical answers and comments on the real trains, nice, Toledo Ed, I like your #21 WM Diesel on your nice layout, (I see Mark Boyce has one of those WM Diesels also), Randy Harrison, I really enjoy seeing your Locomotive pictures and on your Post picture, are you playing a French Horn, I used to play French shorn in our High School band...Great Thread, Wonderful Memories....Happy Fathers Day OGR Friends....
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I would presume the water rose as the train was stopped at the signal.
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pretty cool Bob ! your street, cement & weathering look GREAT !!
Bill T, Williams Blue Goose?
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great pic Brian. The Crackerbox GMC reminds me of Dad and my Uncle being truckers, the old cars, the billboards (there was always a Zenith TV in our families homes), and of course the PRR, even if they are dismals...
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coach joe posted:Bill T, Williams Blue Goose?
Very early MTH, loco & passenger cars.
here is a some Williams...
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briansilvermustang posted:
NOW you're talkin'!
That picture was taken by one of my longest-term model railroad friends: Dr. Mike Condren.
Mike took that photo in Van Buren, AR (one of my favoritist Frisco locations) in the mid-sixties near dusk. You're looking at the last months of the "Meteorite" passenger being pulled by FP7 #5047 as it heads north to connect with the "Meteor" at Monett/Springfield, MO. ("Meteorite" was a slang term for the little train, for it was a split off of the "Meteor" further north.) Over in the hole is an extra freight waiting for the Meteorite to pass.
That particular day, the Meteorite was longer than typical, for I recall Mike telling me it was doubling as a business train that day.
The Meteorite passed into history in September, 1965.
Andre
that is pretty neat story Andre, glad I ran across that photo,
while looking at train shots this morning, have a great day !!