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Hello all, over the weekend I started to do my table top. I painted the top brown and sprinkled it with woodland scenic fine green. Now I was thinking about spraying a light coat of Adhesive to the top of the fine green. What do you think?  Positive and Negative responses are welcome. Thanks Steve.

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most of it will probably stick to the paint. but, to be sure you can consider a fine spray of matte medium. dries clear. apart with some wet water first (a few drops of dishwashing liquid in the water) which will help the medium or any glue you use to disperse evenly and not glob up. you can add some small bushes as well before it all dries.

jerrman

I do not depend on wet paint to hold ground cover material, whether it is "grass" or ballast.  

What I do is:

1) prepare the surface. I usually paint it with flat latex (green, brown or rock-gray, etc., as seems appropriate) although if it is foamboard I use an oil-based primer first (water-based paints play wih and warp foamboard sometimes).

2) Let the paint dry.

3) I use cheap chip brushes and a 50/50 mixture of yellow glue to the area I want to cover with the ground cover/flocking.  I apply it to the area I want and then pour of the stuff thick until I see no glue or wet spots in the stuff.  I then pat it down lightly, wait tne minutes, and use a shop vac with a clean tank and run the vacuum head over all of it to pickup all spare stuff.  I empty the container back into the original bottle/bag of material, to use again.

Last edited by Lee Willis

Using spray adhesive for scenery is a bad idea, because it stays tacky rather than drying hard. This means that dust, pet hair, or anything else that settles on the layout will become part of your scenery. If you've already done this, you can try to seal everything with a coat of dull coat or artist's pastel fixative matte spray...

 

Bill in FtL

Originally Posted by mrnavy2:
What I did qas painted the top with brown indoor latex paint and before it dried I sprinkled the grass on top as the picture shows. Thanks again Steve..

That should hold a lot of it if you patted it down. Vacuum off the loose stuff and see if you need to fill. You can use lee's method if you need to fill. or maybe a different texture or color material. The semi-bare areas help the look. There are no perfect lawns everywhere.

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Originally Posted by Moonman:
Originally Posted by mrnavy2:
What I did qas painted the top with brown indoor latex paint and before it dried I sprinkled the grass on top as the picture shows. Thanks again Steve..

That should hold a lot of it if you patted it down. Vacuum off the loose stuff and see if you need to fill. You can use lee's method if you need to fill. or maybe a different texture or color material. The semi-bare areas help the look. There are no perfect lawns everywhere.

Carl, I did not pat it down.  i just sprinkle it on and let it all dry.   Maybe what i will do is just Vacumuum it all up from the table and see what it looks like.  If not good i will try it again.  Steve.

I've always had very good AND very predictable results using the matte medium system.  Paint the area with Matte Medium, (Elmer's Glue works good too) and sprinkle on whatever ground cover you will be using.  After you are satisfied with your first layer proceed accordingly.  First spray the area with a misting of "wet water", (regular tap water with a few drops of liquid dish washing soap), to help break the surface tension.  Add another layer of ground cover, a little light misting with "wet water" and spray generously with Matte Medium mixed with tap water, (about 50/50), Elmer's glue works here as well.  Repeat until you are satisfied with the result.  Lots of good stuff on You Tube too! Have Fun!

 

Chief Bob (Retired)

 

Originally Posted by mrnavy2:
Originally Posted by Moonman:
Originally Posted by mrnavy2:
What I did qas painted the top with brown indoor latex paint and before it dried I sprinkled the grass on top as the picture shows. Thanks again Steve..

That should hold a lot of it if you patted it down. Vacuum off the loose stuff and see if you need to fill. You can use lee's method if you need to fill. or maybe a different texture or color material. The semi-bare areas help the look. There are no perfect lawns everywhere.

Carl, I did not pat it down.  i just sprinkle it on and let it all dry.   Maybe what i will do is just Vacumuum it all up from the table and see what it looks like.  If not good i will try it again.  Steve.

Well, the good news is that you can still get the grass down. Eric's Trains and Woodland scenic have videos. lee and Puffr have given you two methods.

 

The tamping was needed with the paint because of thickness of the paint. One member posted that he adds an extender the paint to increase drying time to provide more time to comfortably add scenic material.

 

hey, you'll get it on there and it will look good. Then you will have a method that you like.

 

 

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