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I have a few Atlas long Horizon passenger cars. They will navigate around my outer track OK as it is all 072 and there is lots of clearance on each side.However,  whnethe cars  enter an 072 switch and the  front truck goes through but back truck will jump out. Doesnt matter which car or order I put them in top of the track. The trucks seem to be very close to the track. Is there a remedy folks have used or is this just Atlas /Lionel 072 switch incompatibility. Appreciate thoughts and ideas.Al B

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Al,

I have 4 of what I think were the first run of Comet/Horizon cars that Atlas made and also had a problem similar to yours. It was not only on the last car but some of the intermediate cars would jump as they went through my Ross turnouts. You did not state whose track and turnouts you use so I don't know what I will say will apply. First off, I can understand that the last truck in line is the offender. All the other trucks are pulled through the turnout and have tension on the couplers that are attached to the trucks. The last truck has no tension on the coupler which makes it more susceptible to derailing. As you said, no matter what car you put at the back, the last truck is the one that derails. The fix that I made will be listed a little later in this post. You will also notice that the pick-up roller travels straight up and down. It is not mounted on a angled arm as is your locomotive rollers. Besides this up and down movement, there should be some degree of movement both front and back in a rocking motion. This is where I found the problem in my case. The rocking motion was very limited and I found that that the pick-up roller itself was dropping down into the gap of my turnouts. When it was time for the roller to be forced up as the gap got smaller and due to the roller not be able to rock, it would "lift" not only the roller up but the whole truck. With no tension on the truck from the coupler, it was now free to turn and derail.

 

Sorry to say, but you are going to have to take the car apart for the fix. Not a hard job though. Once the chassis is removed, you will find the blue plastic floor of the car. On both the front and rear trucks you will find a crescent shaped slot where the hot wire for the pick-up roller has clearance to mate with the tab on the roller assembly. You should find that the wire connector is either rubbing or very close to the edges of the slot in the plastic floor. This is preventing the roller from rocking back and forth. I took a dremel tool and widened the slot (this will not affect the appearance of the floor from outside the car). Grind away until the pick-up is able to rock back and forth without coming in contact with the edges of the slot.

 

To see if this is your problem, you might be able to temporarily fasten the pick-up roller in the up position so that it is not in contact with the middle rail. I would try some tape to do this. Run the car through the turnout in this manner and see if the final truck now makes it through without derailing. If it does, I think my fix should cure your problem. Just to let you know, I did this fix to every car and every truck and have had no more problems.

Al,

 

Good to hear that you seem to have solved your problem and that not only does it happen on my Ross Turnouts but Fastrack also.

 

I don't have another solution but rather a way to possibly diagnose the problem.  Pick a turnout that is close to the edge of a turnout. Place the car on the track and by hand, start moving it through the turnout. Looking underneath the car, between the wheels, observe the action of the pick-up roller while also feeling for any binding or resistance. Chances are that at some point you will see the roller assembly drop down into a gap in the rails. As the car continues to move, the assembly will then be pushed back up as the assembly comes out of the gap. You might also notice that as the roller starts to lift up, it will also try and rock back towards the end of the car. I found, this is where the bind occurs. The narrow slot for the contact tab of the roller assembly prevents the backwards motion and now also offers resistance to the upward motion. This can cause the wheels of the truck to come off the rails and thus derail. This might be happening to every truck on the cars as it traverses the turnout but the tension of the cars coupled together keeps the wheels in line with the rails. Only the last truck which has no coupler tension might derail. Do this test again with the car now going in the opposite direction and chances are you will see the same pick-up roller move back towards the end of the car because there is more tab clearance on that side of the slot. As I said, I found this out when these cars first came out and I got my set of MBTA units.

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