Hi Everyone.

I am taking a risk here and am about to sell my soul to the forum and reveal all over the next few months. I thought it would be nice to share this project with the members, so I have started this thread just for this project and nothing else, not being rude but I don't want it to drift off to the rest of the layout I already have a thread for that.

Even though this thread will be about one section of the layout I am sure you will find it interesting as I will include our thoughts and approach to model railroading that we have gathered through many years of layout building and modelling. Again I stress that Bruce and myself are not professionals just  average Model railroaders so don't be put off about this thread thinking it is just another "Endless money and outside help project" it is not, anyone can use our methods and ideas.

Bruce Temperley and myself Neville Rossiter have been developing a layout working together for many years  pooling our finances and time to develop this wonderful layout with very little outside help, we try and do everything ourselves the one luxury we allow ourselves is a fully equipped workshop capable of building just about anything not necessary for this project so don't be put off.

One other thing please don't take offence at my poor attempts at using the English language to write this thread, my education in my younger days was dismal to say the least and I have spent almost all my life trying to overcome this, lucky I have a wife who did have a good education and helps me a lot with my spelling! 

Hopefully you will sign on and join us on this START to FINISH project on the "Redevelopment of Bay Ridge" Thank you Neville. (Roo) and Bruce.

 

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Thank you everyone for your support!

Like every journey that begins with the first step this one begins with a list...........

Confirm concept track plan.

Prepare scale drawings to ensure the position of through board mechanism, such as Tortoise motors do not conflict with supporting timber framework.

Approve final track layout and drawings.

Generate Bill of materials and estimated cost for track, turnouts and tortoise motors.

Agree costs and share expenditure.

Place orders for long lead time items.

Prepare electrical schematic.

Draw detailed electrical wiring diagram.

Design turnout matrix boards.

Design turnout latch relay boards.

Generate bill of materials for electrical components and cabling.

Draw Control Panel display.

Order Control Panel Fascia.

Construct and wire complete self contained control panel assembly.

Construct and test Matrix boards.

Bench test the control panel to ensure it opertates before fitting.

Consider options for phased rewiring such as temporary location of existing control panel while new panel is being fitted.

Remove all obstructions underneath the layout and consider temporary supports.

Consider changes to existing backdrop and scenery before laying any track.

Shut down existing layout only when all equipment is available and the above preparations are satisfactorily completed. 

This above list shows the steps needed to keep the layout fully operational while preparing for the changes it is not a complete rebuild of the layout only one section and we are using the existing bench work it will get more clearer when I post the track plan which is being prepared now.

Thanks for joining us on our journey more soon. It will get more interesting when I can generate some photos that will happen soon. Roo. 

Roo posted:

Thank you everyone for your support!

Like every journey that begins with the first step this one begins with a list...........

Confirm concept track plan.

Prepare scale drawings to ensure the position of through board mechanism, such as Tortoise motors do not conflict with supporting timber framework.

Approve final track layout and drawings.

Generate Bill of materials and estimated cost for track, turnouts and tortoise motors.

Agree costs and share expenditure.

Place orders for long lead time items.

Prepare electrical schematic.

Draw detailed electrical wiring diagram.

Design turnout matrix boards.

Design turnout latch relay boards.

Generate bill of materials for electrical components and cabling.

Draw Control Panel display.

Order Control Panel Fascia.

Construct and wire complete self contained control panel assembly.

Construct and test Matrix boards.

Bench test the control panel to ensure it opertates before fitting.

Consider options for phased rewiring such as temporary location of existing control panel while new panel is being fitted.

Remove all obstructions underneath the layout and consider temporary supports.

Consider changes to existing backdrop and scenery before laying any track.

Shut down existing layout only when all equipment is available and the above preparations are satisfactorily completed. 

This above list shows the steps needed to keep the layout fully operational while preparing for the changes it is not a complete rebuild of the layout only one section and we are using the existing bench work it will get more clearer when I post the track plan which is being prepared now.

Thanks for joining us on our journey more soon. It will get more interesting when I can generate some photos that will happen soon. Roo. 

Neville, you are missing the greasing of palms.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlVDGmjz7eM

I have called this yard "Bay Ridge" going right back to when I first started a Rail Marine theme which is long gone now. When I changed to a Steel Mill theme I kept the Bay Ridge name for the yard it was just to hard to change it!

Bruce is working on a track plan and will have it ready soon I have made some changes to the track which is why it's taking so long but I want to get it right. As soon as the track plan is ready I will post it to this thread in the meantime I am fixing up the backdrop working with what I have it might look a bit "cartoonish" to some but you see it when you first walk in the room and the colour looks the part keep in mind everything has to come from America which tends to delay certain jobs like the nearest American Hobby shop for me is 16,000miles away ! I still have to Glue the Walthers backdrops on the wall I will paint some clouds to break up the blue after the final piece is glued to the "sky".Ha Ha.

We have the control panel drawing almost ready I will post it at the same time as the Track plan all going well.

It's not exactly exciting work at the moment but as we go along over the next few weeks it will slowly get more interesting.

Thank you all for following this thread and your kind remarks. Roo.

 

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The backdrop is going to be time consuming instead of pasting the Walthers backdrops flat I have decided they look a lot better pasted onto foamcore board first, lucky there is a gap on the already pasted buildings below so they will fit behind (Maybe I had this in mind when I pasted the buildings originally, I forget!)  it just gives everything a feeling of depth not being artistic minded I struggle with little projects like backdrops. I also lightly feather sprayed some clouds on the "blue sky" to break up the monotony of the blue. It's fun isn't it.   Roo.

 

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The final photo of the actual backdrop before the the ground cover and other ground scenery. The real thing looks better than the photo as you are further away from it and can't take the whole thing in at once photos can be cruel sometimes.

I'm happy with it and I am the one who has to look at it everyday! No track plan yet but we are working on it. Keep looking in I won't let you down. It's basic Model Railroading but that's what I am, you still might learn something from it. 

  Roo.

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Roo,

Yes, pictures can be cruel, but they can also be very enlightening.  It appears, from your last photo, that the light source for this picture is off to the left and not back near the back-edge of this layout section.  I reached that conclusion by noticing the small shadow lines created near the top of your now 3-D (after adding foamcore) Walther's backdrop building pictures.  Those shadows caught my eye because they are very dark on your blue painted sky.

I know you probably can't safely remove the backdrop pictures from the foamcore, but can you move the lighting to be more directly over the back edge of this table?  That might minimize the "shadow" look.

And, of course, if my analysis is completely wrong because my old eyes have deceived me, please accept my apologies up front.

Chuck

I like what you're doing, there Roo. Urban/industrial is one of my weaknesses: Love it... gonna' find a way to get more of it.

I also like your use of photographic flats. I think the results speak for themselves. (i.e. They produce VERY realistic looking "factory/urban" backdrops.) I use photographic flats, too.

Looking forward to seeing your latest whim take shape!

Andre

Thanks guys the backdrop flats in the front are from Trackside Flats O scale size off the internet and Walthers Instant Buildings HO size at the rear.

Andre. I like industrial areas as well as you may have guessed !

Chuck, the backdrops look OK it's my photography that's the problem.

Tonight I am buildings fences to go in front of the backdrop see photo. I made the jig myself and used the wood you see in the boat building section of the hobby shop not scale wood to expensive for a fence.

Almost forgot have the track plan ready to post along with other drawings will get them up tonight if I'm not to tired. Roo.

 

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Thanks again Coach Joe.

This photo shows the back drop from a distance I think it looks OK I am going to add a few signs when I get time.

At the moment I am about to put some signs on the fencing I stained them yesterday then I will "Plant" the fences today.

I have ordered all the track and the Tortoise motors also the ballast has been ordered along with other items so the next couple of weeks look like being busy.

Jim. I know about those Lenz double slips but I have used English Marcway track for many years and found it to be very reliable to old to change brands! Thanks for the call.  Those plastic things are silverfish deterrents had some attack the backdrop.   Isn't Model Railroad building fun.  Roo.

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