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In 1976 a lot of Railroads Painted their Locos

in the Freedom Colors

In 1976, The Detroit Toledo & Ironton painted one GP-38 for the bi-centennial.  This loco was used for freight trains only. I had the opportunity to see this loco several times in 1976.

D T & ! 1976 Freedom ColorsD T & I Fort Street Yard

Other railroads from southeastern Michigan also used this popular paint design, like Ford Rouge Railroad Yard Switchers, and Buick Town, in Flint Michigan also painted their yard engines with the Freedom Paint Color.

Gary: Rail-fan

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trainroomgary posted:

Electric is OK, with me. That GG-1 • Looks great. Even Lionel made a model.

Lionel GG-1 76

Gary: Rail-fan

Nice I have the Williams scale GG1 bicentennial , cool stuff!  Have that Seaboard coast line in several scales. Being from northern New England I do like that BAR  engine too!

Rusty Traque posted:
John23 posted:

Those were pretty cool.  The railroads really got into that.   Trains magazine did a group photo poster of a bunch of them together in Chicago.  The only one that I saw was the Soo Line's unit when it came to Marquette, MI.  

The Trains photoshoot:

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Here's a ROSTER of all the known Bicentennial diesels

Rusty

The Roster forgot three locomotives:  AFT 610, 2100, and 4449.

Plus the UP 951 as the Preamble Express 951 was a train to test routes for the AFT.  (Did the AFT lease the unit?)  Officially UP never on its own had a bi-cent locomotive.

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rdunniii posted:

I asked Sunset doing the Milwaukee bicentennial SD40-2 but I guess I am the only one as it has not been added to the website yet (which means less than 4 others have asked).

MTH made Milwaukee Road SD40-2 no. 156 in its bicentennial scheme a little more than two years ago. Item no. 20-20412-1. Readily available.

I'd forgotten about that, probably explains it.  But I am not interested in anything MTH makes.

William 1 posted:

imageI doubt this is from '76, but there are a handful of these BC Rail units that roll through my hometown on the CN line.  They are red, white and blue.  Just saw #4620 last Sunday.

Plus, BC Rail was officially chartered in 1984 (from British Columbia Railway, whose locomotives were two-tone green) and was hardly in the United States...

Rusty

645 posted:
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NJCJOE posted:

Yes, there were a lot of them.

 

I don't think I have seen this one?

SCL 1776 was the engine that started the whole bicentennial paint scheme fad. Without it it's possible we would not have seen any bicentennial engines at all.

Umm, the SCL U36B was modeled by Bachman in N and HO scale, by Athearn in HO, and by Lionel in O gauge.  And those models and sets are still circulating in the market. How could you possibly have missed that one?

645 posted:

 

Above photo was taken in October 2014 so it was still around at that time.

This rebuilt unit apparently replaced the 1528. It arrived in July 2015. Don't know if 1528 is still there today (probably not) as back up power - haven't been out that way for a few years now.

First, 645, awesome summary! 

This doesn't count as a restored bicentennial painted unit now, but BN SDP40 9855 is preserved in Minnesota in BN green/black. It was once painted as a BN bicentennial unit.

Also, here's a shot of the Alco Switcher I took in Gilman this past August. It's been shoved to the very end of the Cargill siding.

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Jim R. posted:

Same was true with several of the bicentennial diesels, including C&NW EMD GP18 no. 1776 and most notably SCL GE U36B no. 1776, which started the trend circa 1973 and was the most modeled engine (Lionel, Bachmann and Athearn) during that time period.

Tyco, which mimicked the SCL scheme on its Alco Centuries, had a TV ad that I believe started running in the 1973 holiday season for its Spirit of '76 train set in HO. That's what got me started on bicentennial diesels. Sadly, I can find no copy of that commercial anywhere on the Internet.

In a similar story line, I have read that it's cab #1225, is why the Pere Marquette 2-8-4, that was the inspiration for the locomotive in Polar Express was saved because, someone didn't want to see it go to scrap because of the cab#'s association with Christmas. I don't know if that is "The Truth, The Whole Truth, and Nothing but the Truth", but it DOES make a Nice Story.

 While not related to the cab# , the Nevada Northern Ry 4-6-0 #40 was saved because someone there couldn't stand the thought of her being cut, and she was "Hidden" in various places all over the RR, including reportedly, at one point under a pile of scrap. Fortunately she survived the bean counters half hearted searches and was a Very Enjoyable part of my "Engineer For a Day" experience on the NNRY, back in 2007.

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Sorry for slipping off topic,

Doug

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Hot Water posted:

No matter whether Diesels, electrics, or steam this is STILL my favorite "Bi-Centennial" locomotive:

 

Well, yeah, me too, considering I pestered one HO manufacturer (Tyco) hoping it would make the AFT GS4 in 1974, then convinced my dad we should hunt for the Lionel HO version during after-Christmas sales at E.J. Korvettes in Brooklyn in 1974, and finally suggested to MTH in the summer of 2001 that it should reissue its scale no. 4449 for the country's 225th anniversary (which it eventually did after 9-11).

End result over the years? Yep, got it in N (Kato), HO (Bachmann) and O (MTH, below). I love the diesels, too, of course, but 4449 (which I got to see and touch in Milwaukee in 2009, also below) is something extra special.

And you spent time in the cab running her. What, me envious?

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Like that USAF and the Hillsdale County.  Was working for a railroad in the Upper Peninsula in 1976, tried to talk the owner into painting a switcher into Bicentennial, said I'd do it if he'd buy the paint - but no go.  We did fly flags on the the engines.   BTW Gary, if you know Charlie Stoia, contact me about the Buick City lettering via my e-mail.

 

 

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The first Freedom Train was proposed in April 1946 by Attorney General Tom C. Clark, who believed that Americans had begun taking the principles of liberty for granted in the post-war years. The idea was adopted by a coalition that included Paramount Pictures and the Advertising Council, which had just changed its name from "War Advertising Council".

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Note: Still looking for a Bicentennial, Ford Motor Railroad Switcher. The librarian at my local library is a HO Scale Model Railroader and he is helping me with this project. I searched the Detroit Free Press files today, but no luck.  He thinks I should go to the Henry Ford Museum and talk to a researcher.

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Back when Santa Fe used the bicentennial scheme, the units were frequently assigned as the leading unit on the Super-C 79-mph freight train (good publicity, I thought).  At that time, I was able to hold a Fireman assignment on Super-C, in preference to the Engineers' Extra Board, and thus ran a lot of miles in a Santa Fe bicentennial SD45-2.  I took the relief assignment, which worked ten days between San Bernardino and Los Angeles, ten days between San Bernardino and Barstow, and then had ten consecutive days off.  Of course, the Engineers on those assignments were seniority numbers 1,2,and 3.  The fellow I was assigned with did not want to work 20 days in a row, and frequently laid off at the last minute on days he did not feel good, resulting in my being used as Engineer.  Great job!  People always looked twice at the bicentennial engine as we streaked through the orange groves or across the desert through the small towns.  And it gave me a regular reminder to be grateful for all the leaders who had formed our nation in the preceding 200 years, and to remember that it was not free and many had died to preserve the United States.

I am pleased that so many railroads decided to apply commemorative paint schemes.  Thanks for contributions to this thread.  It's good to remember a time when the nation was united in celebrating freedom.

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Indianapolis Union 200 - Although not wearing this scheme, this SW1500 is still on the rails in Ohio as ABC 1501.

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I saw this GE switcher many times as I grew up. It worked for PPG in Barberton, Ohio. As of a couple of years ago it was still working, in it's bicentennial colors, at Cotter Merchandise Storage in Akron, Ohio.

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645 posted:
trainroomgary posted:

WANTED A BETTER PHOTO OF THE - Detroit and Mackinac Railway - Bicentennial Diesel

Gary: Rail-fan

You need to brush up on your internet searching skills. Found the below image in two minutes:

Hi 645 - Thanks 

Do you want to share your searching procedures?      •      Gary: Rail-fan

Did the Preamble Express really cross the country to check clearances and set up schedules? Wouldn't the host railroads have already known where a train like this could go and would fit? I just found this picture of AFT 1 in Chicago, trying to back to Navy Pier.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/31203742@N00/33404544295/in/contacts/

Look at just the weeds growing in the track then. Trackage on and near the pier itself was one thing, but to get there required a sharp curve just out of this picture, and then passing under the Merchandise Mart, Sun Times Building, and Wrigley Building on an industrial spur was something else. I recall a story of Santa Fe wanting to show off one of its then-new full dome passenger cars under the Sun Times Building. IIRC, the dome didn't fit under the Mercandise Mart, so it was left not where it was originally planned. If a Preamble crew had come to Chicago and checked, wouldn't they have known AFT 1 not making it on those rickety tracks?

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