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Not much of interest to me in the new catalog. Like the F7s, but not in the road names offered. Asked Steve Nelson (Mr. Muffin) to consider a special run in either NPR or NYC. I would buy either. Steve was very concerned about the prices of the engines, and the higher number which need to be ordered now by a dealer in order to have a special run done, so we shall see. The GLa hoppers were a surprise and are of some interest to me, as I have a bunch from the first couple of runs of them, when Lionel still had their great trucks and couplers. However, I won't consider buying any of these if the couplers on them are not articulated. The prices of the hoppers are also outrageous, although I'm sure there will be a discount offered by the dealers. I did not hear any comments from Dave or Ryan about the freight car couplers yesterday, but I did not watch the entire program.

Pat

@BlueFeather posted:

Probably a Class A -- either WWII or Post 1945.

Probably Virginian and N & W hopper two-packs.

Gotta admit the rocket train is kinda cool -- have to think about how I'd justify running it on an Appalachian-inspired layout.  Maybe it's passing thru the mountains on its way down to the Cape.  :-)

Right! Think Homer Hickem from the movie “October Sky”

@Jeff T posted:

Ah, my pet peeve, custom runs!! I really wish there was one place we could see all the custom runs. It seems like there are more popping up everyday...

It would be great if Lionel would put a list on their site. It would also be helpful if OGR would create a new sub forum for them. Only allow dealers to start threads (although all users could comment within them) to keep it from getting cluttered with anything other than announcements.

It would be great if Lionel would put a list on their site. It would also be helpful if OGR would create a new sub forum for them. Only allow dealers to start threads (although all users could comment within them) to keep it from getting cluttered with anything other than announcements.

That is an excellent idea! People could propose a custom run and OGRers can weigh in what they want and train dealers can select special runs they would like to sponsor!

To my suprise, I'm "considering" one of the NYC 0-6-0's.

I've never owned a scale MTH loco before and its not a mortgage payment( or two)

The general higher level of detail of MTH tooling. Along with "never before offered with Legacy" make me reconsider preordering.

It will be interesting to see if Lionel keeps the tender deck plate along with the whistle and bell cords.

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@RickO posted:

To my suprise, I'm "considering" one of the NYC 0-6-0's.

I've never owned a scale MTH loco before and its not a mortgage payment( or two)

The general higher level of detail of MTH tooling. Along with "never before offered with Legacy" make me reconsider preordering.

It will be interesting to see if Lionel keeps the tender deck plate along with the whistle and bell cords.

Thats another engine that could have gone with the Mogul tender.



Pete

@Rick Rubino posted:

nothing for me. you can tell they have the upper hand now with MTH gone.   $99 hopper cars and $399 PRR horse car.  

7% inflation and supply shortages contribute more to the price increase than the loss of MTH as a major train company does. But you can look at it this way: people are paying those prices and I think it is a positive sign for the hobby that people are willing to spend discretionary dollars on our hobby. And to be fair to Lionel, it’s not all about pure profit for them, they are reinvesting some of those dollars on new tooling and new Legacy technology. Again, this is a good sign for how well the hobby is doing.

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@RickO posted:

While I have your attention Pete. I'm sure this has been discussed before, but a search was dead ends.

Whats the difference between the" New York Central System"  lettering vs. "....Lines" and "New York Central" for that matter. Specific locations on the RR?

That was Lionel’s way out with the tall tender. I do the same thing when relettering an engine for NYC but its not quite correct for the parent company. System and Lines indicate its one of their subs like the Big4 or Michigan Central or a few others. You will notice the small lettering at the top of the coal hopper. That will have the letters of the sub. The sub may or may not have tenders like that even if the parent company didn’t.

Pete

It would also be helpful if OGR would create a new sub forum for them. Only allow dealers to start threads (although all users could comment within them) to keep it from getting cluttered with anything other than announcements.

This is a heck of an idea, actually. I think this would be helpful and very effective. Some dealers make announcements but this would centralize it.

@PSU1980 posted:

Maybe the Class A once I figure out all the little differences between them all including the LCCa version provided they price it the same as dealers due with the other ones

Or paying more for it because you get a year free.

That’s right! I forgot about the LCCA class A. So Lionel is offering nine different  Vision Class A’s Amazing output for one catalog!

That’s right! I forgot about the LCCA class A. So Lionel is offering nine different  Vision Class A’s Amazing output for one catalog!

Yep, the 1222 is the exclusive for the LCCA! There’s gonna be a big issue with it though: in the catalog and on the Facebook live show Ryan and Dave did they mentioned the 1222 is gonna have Roller Bearing rods. In reality the only Class A’s to ever have the Roller Bearing rods were the 1238-1242! I have no idea why Lionel decided to put them on the 1222 since it was never equipped with them in the entirety of its service on the N&W! They should’ve made the LCCA version the 1242 or one of the five others if they really wanted to do a version with the Roller Bearing rods instead of throwing them on a model where it’s entirely inaccurate…

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