GGD SEABOARD AIR LINE SILVER METEOR PRR and RF&P/N&W extra cars

I'd rather see some true N&W Pm coaches, not some smorgasbord variant. 

Jim: Variant or not it was used on the N&W and part of the N&W history. All would be needed is for Scott to use the PRR extra car and just re-letter it for the RF&P.

Stephen

Are you thinking of the Pullman Standard 10-6 sleepers? Lot number 6792. These were built for PRR, N&W and RF&P.  The RF&P cars may have seen service on SAL. As built they all were painted Tuscan with Pennsy striping but lettered for the owner. I doubt that GGD will do these since Lionel cataloged Pennsy smoothsides in 2016 vol2 Signature edition.

Steve

Oops, I thought they were talking about painted smooth side cars. No go here for the stainless.

Those 10-6 cars were also done for the L&N painted in Pennsy colors.  He could also do the cars in their final colors as the N&W ended up painted in blue and maybe some other road's colors.  I think the L&N ended up blue with the delux gold scroll lettering.

The L&N cars were built in a different lot than the N&W, RF&P cars, lot 6814 built Oct 1949. They were indeed painted blue in 1966. The cars from lot 6792 were built in Dec 1948. Of note, the N&W cars went to IC colors in 1963 before going to blue in 1967.

Steve

I've ordered the SAL Silver Meteor and additional cars.  I would take an RF&P Budd Coach and a smooth side RF&P 10-6 smooth side in the Pennsy colors.  The RF&P cars were regulars in the late 60s on the Florida trains.  The smoothside L&N 10-6 sleepers would also be a hit with me as one could do the Southwind and other Florida remnants dependant on area and era.  Interestingly the L&N 10-6 River series Sleepers wound up in Amtrak paint and were in Florida service for several years in the early 70s.  

Seems to be some confusion about the Silver Meteor offering. What is being planned are the 5 Budd fluted cars - combine, coach, diner, 10 and 6 sleeper, observation and the Pullman Standard sun lounge car. Extra Budd fluted coaches and sleepers will be offered in PRR and RF&P lettering.

There are no plans in the Silver Meteor project for any smooth side sleepers as shown in some of the above posts.

The Sunset has not announced the RF&P car on their website. Are these going to be offered? Good sales come from good marketing!

Stephen

Are the extra 60 seat coaches 21" cars or shorter? 

Thanks,

Larry Neal posted:

Are the extra 60 seat coaches 21" cars or shorter? 

Thanks,

Same cars as those in the 6 car set - 85 foot cars.

Bob H.

Don't forget to remind Scott to change that from 60-seat to 52-seat coach

Sunset/3rd rail/Golden Gate does pretty much generic underbodies and interiors.  I wonder if there is enough of a demand for him to do a certain amount without underbodies and interiors so we can detail it ourselves.  I love the new cars which are correct on the outside and fabulous paint jobs but would like to do the correct interiors. The correct underbody and interiors would seriously raise the price if Scott did them.  Just a passing thought.

Generic interiors may have been true for the Pullman Standard smooth side cars, but every GGD passenger car produced since based on a specific train has had the correct floor plan for the car.  

VGN64 posted:

Sunset/3rd rail/Golden Gate does pretty much generic underbodies and interiors.  I wonder if there is enough of a demand for him to do a certain amount without underbodies and interiors so we can detail it ourselves.  I love the new cars which are correct on the outside and fabulous paint jobs but would like to do the correct interiors. The correct underbody and interiors would seriously raise the price if Scott did them.  Just a passing thought.

Ken,

Jonathan already answered the issue on correct interiors. I am rather certain we will not see anything other than the generic underbodies on GGD cars. A friend of mine spent numerous hours putting the exact correct underbody on a GGD PRR 10 and 6 car. He said never again - too much effort for something that only he knows is there.

The one exception on under body detail was the Canadian.  It has about 80-90% of the correct detailing.  While it does make a difference, many people do not see the difference.  Now that the price of an aluminum car is up to $285.00 getting this detail will be exceptionally difficult.  While that cost may seem a little high, there is little profit per unit in these cars. I believe once they hit the $300 mark that will be the end of Aluminum car production.

Just got mine from Merlyn. Thanks S cotton

Wow! Beautiful!! 

The Budd 10-6 sleeper in this GGD set  is fluted.  Pullman also made a fluted 10-6 sleeper, but the fluting was not the same.

Budd:

PULLMAN:

The fluting above the windows on the Pullman car matches the fluting below the windows, whereas the fluting on the Budd car is smaller.  Both cars have the smaller fluting on the roof, just can't see it in the above photos.

Then you have the smooth side cars.  I haven't looked to see if ACF made any 10-6 cars, but I wouldn't mind seeing some ACF cars.

I'd like to see GGD offer individual cars and all the different railroads that owned them.  I do believe he'd get more orders if we could but the exact car in the railroad we wanted without having to buy a 6-car set.

I've tried to make the PORTSMOUTH car, but nothing I can do will come close to what GGD has done with this new 6-car set.