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A discussion has developed on another forum regarding the practice of securing heat shrink to electrical connections that I feel is quite interesting.  This discussion, while not yet heated (excuse the pun) is causing some friction.  I am a proponent of using a heat gun especially while working under the layout.  For safety sake, I try to avoid using an open flame wherever and whenever possible.  Do you use a heat gun, hair dryer, match, butane lighter or some other method of applying heat to shrink the tubing? 

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Originally Posted by BryanM:

I use a fireplace lighter with extreme,and I mean extreme care.

i second the vote on that...thats what i used too..even on real cars....the lighter flame hits in a small pattern ...heat gun has a wide area of heat and would be to much most of the time..lighter works in tight areas too..

Originally Posted by BryanM:

I use a fireplace lighter with extreme, and I mean extreme care.

Use one of these myself, at the workbench (where I do most work involving heat shrink tubing). I have been thinking about buying a small heat gun just for this type of stuff. I definitely think a heat gun or hair dryer would be much safer than the way I do it at the bench and especially under the wooden layout.

 

Although you could probably cause a fire with powerful enough heat gun, I don't see how there could be much argument as to what is safer - hot air vs. open flame for chance of fire.

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There were people on the other forum that said they used a match to shrink the tubing.  Rail (Don) was one that endorsed that method and was annoyed that I even asked the question.  I put the question on this forum to see what the replies were from another group.  Hopefully no one will burn their house down and cause loss of life by using a match to shrink tubing, especially while working under the layout platform.  If I offended you, 86TA355SR, I am sorry but there are other points of view besides yours.

 

 

Originally Posted by M.D.:

 

There were people on the other forum that said they used a match to shrink the tubing.  Rail (Don) was one that endorsed that method and was annoyed that I even asked the question.  I put the question on this forum to see what the replies were from another group.  Hopefully no one will burn their house down and cause loss of life by using a match to shrink tubing, especially while working under the layout platform.  If I offended you, 86TA355SR, I am sorry but there are other points of view besides yours.

 

 

No offense taken!  At the end of the day if you haven't burned anything down and you have all your fingers, it was successful!

 

Good luck!

As a retired factory rep I can say that it depends...

 

If you simply want electrical insulation, anything that covers exposed electrical conductors may be OK at our voltages.

 

If you want maximum protection, it may be best achieved with a heat gun that directs heat uniformly around the conductor so the heat shrink ends up with the same thickness around the conductor and connector. 

 

You might ask yourself how you would direct an open flame 360° around the conductor you are trying to insulate and not overheat/underheat part of the heat shrink?

 

If you were paying someone to work for you, which type of work would you feel more comfortable with?

 

When I use heat shrink I use a heat gun with an appropriately sized tip that directs the heat 360° around the splice.

 

Its your money so anything that suits you, is safe (in your hands) and accomplishes the objective is OK.

 

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/po.../HeatShrinkProducts/

 

Most heat shrink does not seal against moisture. I normally use adhesive lined heat shrink splices that give me a moisture resistant splice.

 

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/po...c3&sorttype=list

 

Actually, I normally use 3M Insulation Displacement Connectors for 90% of my splices.

 

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/po...tricalWireConnTools/

 

 

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Last edited by Jerrys-RR

I only use moisture resistant connections where there is a potential problem such as the layout under the leaky roof or the outside layouts. There are two coolers positioned under the major leaks plus a couple smaller leaks I have not yet found.

There is an underground spring in the crawl space (really).

My layouts are in somewhat challenging locations with well over 1,000 assorted splices but they were the spaces my wife objected the least to.



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How did you get that picture of whats under my layout??? 

 

Its like I tell everyone. There are only one or two wires...

 

Two wires to this switch, one wire to that siding (over and over and over).

 

I can remember a mechanical switch to control something easier than I can remember which button to push on a keypad.

 

Show me a layout with a lot of switches, uncouplers, sidings and lights and I know there is a lot of wiring spaghetti on or below it (or electronic spaghetti). 

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