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I have a Hornby O gauge BB-8051  3 rail electric with a DC motor trying to change to Ac. someone suggested a get a Dallee 400 e-unit which I received The wiring looked simple enough Blue wire to pickup, Black to ground,  Red & Brown to the brushes, Yellow & Orange for DC motors solder together  However when I removed the body I thought I would see a can motor.to my surprise it looked more like a open frame motor. But what  I see is  1 wire from the pickup to one brush. I assume the frame is ground. I don't see any field wires.does anyone familiar with this type motor can help me understand the wiring.  Thanks  for any help

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There are no field wires since this is a permanent magnet DC motor. According to the Dallee instructions you should just connect the orange and yellow wires together.

Did you check with Dallee whether this should work; the Hornby loco needs 20V DC and I wonder whether the Dallee unit can supply that. 

Did you try the loco at DC? Some of these have lost their magnetism and need even more volt to run (and then run hot).

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Fred

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Because there is only one brush wire; rectification and polarity change for reversing has to be done before power gets to the track.

That board counts on both brushes being isolated feeds.

You'd use a diode(1/2 wave) or bridge rectifier in the engine for one direction only operation fed ac... Or off-engine; 1-3 toggles for reversing and/ or choosing ac/dc; mounted between transformer and track. 

I guess you could also use the board vs one or two toggles; put between transformer and track.

When I talked to the gentleman at Dallee he said he was not familiar with that motor. But he said to check the brushes. I did & found 1 grounded to the frame I took apart the motor & put some heat shrink over the 1 brush well & fiber washers on both sides where it goes thru the brush plate. I than checked for ground Now both are isolated (fortunately the brush wells have a nut on either side making it easier to remove the brush wells, but you still have to remove the armature) Engine is running fine forward & reverse on AC  low amps but still higher voltage  16 or 17 v   Thanks again to  Fred & Adriatic & Dallee electronics

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