What ??? New Super O track --- I'm in 
Matt Makens posted:Light Mikes, AC9's SD40's SD60Ms the fabled flat back or theater obs car everyone has been wanting. S2 Electrics, mill gondolas to name a few
U da man! I will be all over those S2's... could you elaborate on the passenger car offerings please?
I cannot
You wouldn't possibly get a matching passenger car set for an engine in the same catalog, would you?
Wow! Super O track! Just found this ad (I think) from a Plassic Toy Trains mag from the late 90s in the "Plassified" section:
"Lionel “Super-O” trackage: Remember your first acid trip? What is it with those center rail ties? Call
Baba Ram Rail now for spiritual assistance if you think handsome and prohibitively expensive toy trains
should roll over outlandish trackage conceived by Salvador Dali. Call BR Rail (301)372-7362
Hmm...must admit I like Super O - have many pieces of it, but no acid...
Matt Makens posted:Light Mikes, AC9's SD40's SD60Ms the fabled flat back or theater obs car everyone has been wanting. S2 Electrics, mill gondolas to name a few
What do you mean by Light Mikes?
Lionel “Super-O” Baba Ram Rail
This is so funny... maybe its the spell cast by the shape of the ties...
Light mikes would be Light Mikados, as opposed to the recent heavy mikados, which have a bigger diameter boiler appearance, but i have not compared 1 to 1, but i was told running gear in model was same.
Super O Bob posted:Light mikes would be Light Mikados, as opposed to the recent heavy mikados, which have a bigger diameter boiler appearance, but i have not compared 1 to 1, but i was told running gear in model was same.
How many Mikados do we need? Unless it looks like Frisco 1522 or Southern 4501 design. The last issues of Lionel Mikados don't match the engine.
wrawroacx posted:Super O Bob posted:Light mikes would be Light Mikados, as opposed to the recent heavy mikados, which have a bigger diameter boiler appearance, but i have not compared 1 to 1, but i was told running gear in model was same.
How many Mikados do we need? Unless it looks like Frisco 1522 or Southern 4501 design. The last issues of Lionel Mikados don't match the engine.
1522 was a Mountain, not a Mike. The Frisco had two classes of Light Mikes, the 4000s--which were genuine USRA Light Mikados--and the 4100s--which were designed and built at the same time as the 1500-class Mountains and shared many features, including cabs, appliances, trailing trucks, tenders, and even some boiler dimensions. The Lionel Light Mikes are good matches for the 4000s, but none of the Lionel engines really reflects the 4100s (and so both are "misnumbered," if one cares about such things).
The original Lionel offering--the 4100--is a repaint of their very accurate Southern engine. The more recent 4126 (I believe) is a USRA Heavy Mike and isn't really very much like either class.
Really, there were so few sets and variations back then compared to what is done now. I think that each '57 set ought to be duplicated in at least 2 or 3 variations of NH livery -- McGinnis, cranberry, olive green, whatever. And there ought to be a stable of '57 die cast cars to go with them.
Gerry
wrawroacx posted:How many Mikados do we need?
Tell me about it
Lionel must be short on ideas. Theres probably still a few light mikes on the shelves from the previous offering.
Theres certainly alot of "heavy Mikes" left because of the $1000 price tag, we may see blowouts on these when the new light mikes arrive.....for $1200.
Its the same cycle over and over Mohawks, Berks, and Mikes. Wheres the rehash of that "highly detailed" hudson or the CCII Niagara from 15 years ago?
We've had 4 or more offerings of Mohawks, Berks, and Mikes, since then.
Here’s my semi-annual pitch to Lionel from the PW/conventional crowd. We all know they ditched the Conventional Classics line and probably aren’t going to see it ever come back in those numbers. And the so-called PW-inspired stuff in the last few catalogs isn’t very, uh, inspiring.
I’d like to see Lionel make one PW remake each catalog. For example, issue an F3 remake and pair it with some rolling stock to make a PW set. Use the F3 over in different road names and change up the set cars. Then move on to another loco and so on.
As I was saying even one per catalog works for me!
What it looks like from Lionel's Facebook is a pre-war reproduction.
George S posted:Charlienassau posted:Sorry guys, no super O
Why hasn't a third party started reproducing Super O? There seems to be a lot of demand. Or, maybe there is a vendor I am not aware of?
Maybe Menards should take action and produce it!!!
Yes - definitely an SP SC-9 2-8-8-4 (the classiest articulated of all time); I have the TMCC version.
The TMCC version is the original coal-burning configuration; I wonder - but I greatly doubt - if the next one will be the later oil-burning configuration? Same locos, but modified. Nah - that changed lots of piping on the loco, plus they got new - not modified - tenders. That would men - gasp! - new tooling!
Still, hope it's true. Buy it? Not if it's just electronics and smoking bells. True oil-burning version with accurate changes? Probably not.
Probably.
johnstrains posted:Here’s my semi-annual pitch to Lionel from the PW/conventional crowd. We all know they ditched the Conventional Classics line and probably aren’t going to see it ever come back in those numbers. And the so-called PW-inspired stuff in the last few catalogs isn’t very, uh, inspiring.
I’d like to see Lionel make one PW remake each catalog. For example, issue an F3 remake and pair it with some rolling stock to make a PW set. Use the F3 over in different road names and change up the set cars. Then move on to another loco and so on.
As I was saying even one per catalog works for me!
That would be fantastic! But, you will have to shout this request out really loud, or you will be drowned out by the roar of your fellow forumites requesting big dollar, big radius, rats nest of wiring locos.
Light mikes guys. More. Light. Mikes.
OK....call me dumb...but what is different with Super O track?????????
palallin posted:wrawroacx posted:Super O Bob posted:Light mikes would be Light Mikados, as opposed to the recent heavy mikados, which have a bigger diameter boiler appearance, but i have not compared 1 to 1, but i was told running gear in model was same.
How many Mikados do we need? Unless it looks like Frisco 1522 or Southern 4501 design. The last issues of Lionel Mikados don't match the engine.
1522 was a Mountain, not a Mike. The Frisco had two classes of Light Mikes, the 4000s--which were genuine USRA Light Mikados--and the 4100s--which were designed and built at the same time as the 1500-class Mountains and shared many features, including cabs, appliances, trailing trucks, tenders, and even some boiler dimensions. The Lionel Light Mikes are good matches for the 4000s, but none of the Lionel engines really reflects the 4100s (and so both are "misnumbered," if one cares about such things).
The original Lionel offering--the 4100--is a repaint of their very accurate Southern engine. The more recent 4126 (I believe) is a USRA Heavy Mike and isn't really very much like either class.
Sorry I messed up on. I took first glance and thought it was a Mikado because it resembles it. By the way, I own the Lionel SP AC-9 from 2003 and I will never part from it. The engine detail is superb. The look is beautiful and the whistle in my opinion was the best sounding whistle Lionel ever did outside of the Lionel Vision Big Boy Whistle.
