John Rowlen posted:

If the Lionel cars come with quality die-cast trucks, why are weights necessary?

Maybe to bring it up to NMRA standards? Regardless, assuming that they have not changed the materials from the Weaver cars, they're pretty light, with plastic floors. Die-cast trucks will definitely help tracking and prevent string-lining, but so, too, will extra weight in the cars.

Big Jim posted:
tom21pa posted:

...he's got mth making same car 

Copy-catting has been prevalent through the years. It's sad but not surprising.

Yeah.  I guess it's called "competition" - and it's sometimes unseemly in such a limited market as toy trains.
That's one reason why I don't buy one manufacturer's products any longer.  

Just M.O.

 

 

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cabinet Bob posted:

Just asking, there are two little screws on the bottom, are these the only ones you need to remove to get the body off? My weights are loose inside as well. You would think Lionel would know how to install these weights by now...

Here's how I did it (take that for what's it worth)...

Removed the two screws.  Opened the doors so I could stick my fingers inside the car.  GENTLY pry one side out so that the floor will pop out on one side.  Reach way in to one end to pry the side so that one corner will pop free.  Be VERY careful about the ladders on the ends - I worked on one of the corners without ladders.

Once the floor is removed, the location of the weights will be apparent.  When reassembling, the end-to-end fit is very tight - I used a tongue depressor between the end of the car and the floor to gently push the floor towards the other end, then popped it into place.  Pick the screws up off the floor and reinsert them.

Good luck!

I vote for letting Derek and pat work out whatever needs to be worked out. With all respect to our forum members, pat is an ethical business owner. We respect both of these folks. It is possible both have explored this independently.

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Notch 6 posted:

Hey all, 

Those do appear to be car weights that may have gotten knocked loose during shipping. Obviously that is not what we want to see, but it is an easy fix. These were glued by the factory to the floor of the car inside. Please let me know if it creates an issue for the car. 

Thanks,

Derek

Derek,

Just in case you're keeping track, the weights were not affixed in my car, either.  Otherwise, looks sharp...

Tuscan Jim

Thanks to everyone who is letting me know about the weight issue. We're aware and Lionel is aware. We'll take any steps we need to get issues corrected. 

Great to see photos of the car arriving. I'm very proud of this project and how fun it is. The cars look better in person than the concept art. Still have a hand full of cars left, but the pile is getting smaller every morning. If you'd like to get yours now please head on over to the website. 

PS. Would love to see some photos of this car in front of any other buildings, etc. that have jokes or puns on your layout. That's half the fun! 

 

 

 

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I received my car today and it was my first LionScale piece.  The car is really unique and fun!  While others had their weights ajar my came perfectly intact.  The decoration is just really cool and it came with a letter of authenticity.  The car made its way to the carpet central and somehow got mixed in with a Union Pacific freight train!  I was pretty happy to support Derek on this first "XP" adventure and hope there are more to come!

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