ironman1 posted:Is the thumb wheel cradle the main failure point of the DCS remote?
That is a point of failure, probably the most common. However, the contacts also get flaky over time.
gunrunnerjohn posted:thor73 posted:I run DCC, not DCS, so I'm not directly impacted by the current conversation. But I will say, if you're looking for options, it's worth considering. PS3 locos support DCC out of the box, so that part is easy.Easy?
The same old statement comes up from the DCC crowd, but it's getting a little tiresome!
The only way to go to DCC is to abandon all your PS/2 and Lionel TMCC/Legacy locomotives! Hardly a realistic option for the vast majority of users!
I couldn't agree more. Currently switching to DCC is just plain unrealistic for the above reason. 
Rod
Rod Stewart posted:gunrunnerjohn posted:thor73 posted:I run DCC, not DCS, so I'm not directly impacted by the current conversation. But I will say, if you're looking for options, it's worth considering. PS3 locos support DCC out of the box, so that part is easy.Easy?
The same old statement comes up from the DCC crowd, but it's getting a little tiresome!
I couldn't agree more. Currently switching to DCC is just plain unrealistic for the above reason.
Rod
I was faced with many of the same concerns when I made the decision to go digital some years back, and decided on DCC. I have been very happy with that decision.
I thought that might be of interest to some. Didn't realize it was the "same old tiresome statement".
Well, telling me that it's a good idea to scrap 150 locomotives isn't particularly a good idea. 
If MTH had the old Mike Wolf spirit, they would find a contractor to make and support the remotes. Someone here suggested DCE or one of the HO DCC crowd. I'd like to see that--and some cooperation between MTH and whomever on this issue. What's next? Ford eliminates steering wheels and tells drivers to go use their app? Oh wait--we'll have to wait for self-driving cars. After that, the steering wheel is optional!
Honestly, I'll be happy to freeze my layout where it is. 6.1 is stable and pretty bug free as far as I can tell. It is successful, mature technology. Let me remove the burden from Mike of ever having to sell me anything ever again...
Don
gunrunnerjohn posted:Well, telling me that it's a good idea to scrap 150 locomotives isn't particularly a good idea.
I admit, sadly, I don't have that many, lol.
"If MTH had the old Mike Wolf spirit, they would find a contractor to make and support the remotes. Someone here suggested DCE or one of the HO DCC crowd."
I assume you mean NCE? I doubt they or any other DCC manufacturer would be interested in helping MTH in any way, due to historical issues. Some bad karma there 
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gunrunnerjohn posted:Well, telling me that it's a good idea to scrap 150 locomotives isn't particularly a good idea.
Yeah, after I just spent three years putting TMCC in thirty somtin locos ? Only 25 to go. j
thor73 posted:gunrunnerjohn posted:Well, telling me that it's a good idea to scrap 150 locomotives isn't particularly a good idea.
I admit, sadly, I don't have that many, lol.
I can count all of mine on both hands and have fingers left over.
Regardless, it isn't worth it to convert to anything else.
I think DCC might be a possibility for me. Almost all my engines are MTH and PS3, only a couple are Lionel and not DCC compatible. I probably won't switch completely, or at least not for some time yet, but I've always liked the NCE DCC systems and thought it might be fun to have one. My long term plan has always been to one day try and add an NCE system on a separate loop of track or an additional layout. Always sounded like something that might be fun to me.
