Is TTOS reforming?

I used to be active in TTOS, and it was active in this area.  I submitted articles, etc., but there was some kind of hassle on west coast, local active people passed, and my last effort was to buy a convention car.  So l would like to know, too

I have no answers on the national TTOS group, which runs the website.

It is my understanding that at the moment there are 2 separate TTOS groups, there is the National group, which has management/credibility issues and has essentially imploded on itself, and there is the TTOS Southwestern? group that is based in Southern California.  The Southwestern group's charter was a separate corporation? from the National group and when the National group started having management issues, they withdrew their support from that group.

As far as the TTOS group "losing" its Cal Stewart meet, that had nothing to do with any problems within the TTOS.  The Cal Stewart show was always put on by the Southwestern group, much like York is put on by the Eastern Division of TCA, rather than by National.  The decision to not hold the Cal Stewart meet was due to high costs/low attendance.  I was at the final Cal Stewart show, which was held in 2018? and the attendance was awful.  I have friends who were involved with the show and my understanding is that attendance had been falling for years and they moved venues several times in order to keep the costs low.  The show was always for club members only on Saturday and then to the public and club members on Sunday.  The public never showed up for the last show and they ended up losing money.  So the Southwestern group decided that they would no longer hold the 2-day Cal Stewart show.  It is my understanding that the Southwestern group still holds a 1-day show every month and they typically sell more tables than they did for the last Cal Stewart show.

If you had followed the Cal Stewart/NorCal shows, Cal Stewart being in November and NorCal being in March, you would recall that the NorCal show (put on by the local TCA group in the San Francisco area) stopped being a 2 day show at some point prior to the final Cal Stewart show.  It is my understanding that the reasons for NorCal going to a single day show were similar to the Cal Stewart show not being held any longer.

TTOS is indeed rebuilding its website.

TTOS National is financially healthy and adding new members each month through its divisions in a number of states.

J Keeley, Director-at-Large, West

I was a Member of Sac Valley Division and the membership has been declining rapidly since 2020, the enviornment is very toxic there.

@J Keeley posted:

TTOS is indeed rebuilding its website.

TTOS National is financially healthy and adding new members each month through its divisions in a number of states.

J Keeley, Director-at-Large, West

Can you share current TTOS membership numbers this year and last year’s numbers?

I have been told that TTOS National Membership Stands at 1200 members + or -

Mikey

Years ago, there was a rumor that one of the national officers said that if the national got into financial trouble, they would siphon money from the various local chapters. That caused many of the local chapters to incorporate as separate entities, at least from the financial standpoint.

Not much of a website.  Six months of "rebuilding" yielded one page?  TTOS Website

@gunrunnerjohn posted:

Not much of a website.  Six months of "rebuilding" yielded one page?  TTOS Website

They have now a new website which I believe has been around for a while: https://www.ttos.org/.

@NIKHIL posted:

They have now a new website which I believe has been around for a while: https://www.ttos.org/.

That's the site I linked, it's one page!

The website says it all, lack of Information declining membership and lots of arrogance.

Mikey

Just announced TTOS is going under Dec 31 2023 as we know it. My division will begin discussion on how to live or die. Stay tuned

Ugh, I hope the local chapters still survive somehow.

Here is what has gone out to the Southern Pacific Division and my understanding is that all of the Division Presidents are working to make their Divisions grow and move forward:

The TTOS National Board of Directors made significant changes to the structure of TTOS at the recently-concluded National Convention. SP President Jeff Meyer has made the following statement: "TTOS is going to a regional format with the Divisions functioning as normal. More details will be discussed in the future. Nothing is going away; Southern Pacific will continue as normal." All planned SP Division events will go on as scheduled, including the December Super Meet. Please ignore the rumors and misinformation that have begun circulating on social media. Our Division remains strong, financially sound, and growing in membership.

SP

The TTOS will cease to exist on 12/31/23,declining membership and bad MANAGEMENT.

@mikey posted:

The TTOS will cease to exist on 12/31/23,declining membership and bad MANAGEMENT.

Mike, is that your opinion or do you have substantive information?

Paul

@Railrunnin posted:

Mike, is that your opinion or do you have substantive information?

Paul

Call the TTOS National,info from National Convention.

If this is true it is sad. But I think all membership groups that focus on a single hobby or similar interest are in bad shape. Last year I was surprised when the Gold Wing Road Riders Association suddenly shut down. But just like train groups,  people just aren't joining them anymore.