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Kon's Layout* as of 02-27-18 new layout *

K Kon112HOGR Forum Member

So just want to introduce myself to the members here. I been building layouts with my father since I can remember (I am 28). My fathers been into trains forever aswell. So we recently started a new MTH DCS 12x16 close to high rail as possible. Previous layout was 1950's era conventional which is featured on my YouTube.  Lots of progression pics on my Facebook of new layout and weekly YouTube.  Is it ok to post updates on here frequently ? -Andrew
Here's my Channel be sure to check out the newest videos . Up date from a weeks work coming soon
http://www.youtube.com/user/KonRail112H

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This weeks update and lots of action ! All ballast done besides the main storage track. All wiring done besides the PRR signal bridge, Dad said he mite wire that up tomorrow.  So the videos feature the roads and ballast done action over the arched bridge. 

The 2nd video is a view from the inside of the layout.  Then  we have two videos of the PRR line crossing the town rd. Thanks all Hope every had a great Christmas !
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Originally Posted by Lancer:
Decided I'm hiring you to come landscape my layout haha!

HAHA! its all practice , trail and error. using all foam is tricky cause its rather square and not flexible. 

Go to your local dollar tree get the black foam  board its $1 works great for templates and lichen walls if needed.  there cheap glue works great too.. 

K Kon112HOGR Forum Member

Thanks all!!

Lots Done tonight  video of all the pics coming soon on youtube once its back up. hopefully some video tomorrow night of the upper line in action. Time to pick the next are to work. Most likely the back wall tunnel portal and area behind the bridge. then place some trees on on the recently done land.
Happy Model Rail Roading ! -Andrew

link to full album
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Originally Posted by Lancer:
Gotcha. If I remember right, didn't you say you used something from Menards or such for the stone walls? I'm really liking how those look and may incorporate something in my layout in the future!

The walls are from ultimate scenery, we get them at a store by Strasburg RR actually. easiest to cut with a table saw or scroll saw. you can call the guy that makes them too if needed thats how i got my HO walls. low temp Hot glue gun works the best to mount them . I use alot of stuff from walmart and dollar tree black foam board is great for all sorts of uses $1 for 20x30 works great for making templates.

Scenic Express sells ones that are light wait foam and little easier to work with , there called Featherlight but they been on back order a while. that's what the stone bridge is made from..

 

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Thanks!! I don't like to narrate lol. its hard to try to do lol
Originally Posted by Lancer:  lots of pics  coming in the hour
Great update Kon! Now you just need some narration to your video and it'll be perfect! Lookin good.

Last night and tonight's work

This will be the river bed. Flex rock will be added as the banks on the curve and the tops above the slope

 River bed formed. grey flex rock along the bends and from the top of slope to  the track deck. rough ground cover on the slope.

 Update overview of scenery !  we plan to pick up more trees by next . planing where more will go.

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wmtrainnut09wmtrainnut09OGR Forum Member

I'm glad I came across this thread.  The layout looks awesome.  Loved the videos and pictures.  I liked how you put together several tunnel portals to make the bridge.  Looks really good.  I see you ballasted the roadbed on the Realtrax.  Nice touch.  Looks a lot more realistic.

 

Thanks Kon for sharing your layout with us.  Looking forward to more updates and videos.

K Kon112HOGR Forum Member
Originally Posted by wmtrainnut09:

I'm glad I came across this thread.  The layout looks awesome.  Loved the videos and pictures.  I liked how you put together several tunnel portals to make the bridge.  Looks really good.  I see you ballasted the roadbed on the Realtrax.  Nice touch.  Looks a lot more realistic.

 

Thanks Kon for sharing your layout with us.  Looking forward to more updates and videos.


Thank You Very Much!  I been working on the layout so much and have been behind on updates and pics. i work 60 hours a week and spend every Mon Tues Thurs working on layout 630 to 10 almost.. some pics from this weeks progress coming soon..


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K Kon112HOGR Forum Member
Originally Posted by Darren Caruso:

Just saw this thread, love the layout.  Nice that you and your father can enjoy the hobby together.  As for one who is a father, nothing brightens up your day like the kids begging to go downstairs to the trains, and the layout isn't even completed yet.

 

Darren

 

Thank you Very Much! Poured Realistic water tonight. just finished. ill take some pics Thursday once dry

 

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F Fridge56VetOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Layout looks great & seems to be coming along nicely!  A quick question - what's the clearance under the arch bridge to the level below?  Or, more precisely, how high is the track level over the plywood below?  I'm in the early stages of layout planning myself & am thinking of having a similar bridge over track below and would like an idea of how much room I need to leave.  Thanks.

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Fridge-I go with 7" too. There are a few cars tall enough to warrant it. Allows extended pantographs(still shorter than the few tall cars). Any future chance of a catenary will need about that too.

 

Nice layout! Complexed, BIG! You may wish to avoid leaking an original project, or two, and try submitting them for a possible magazine feature first, and maybe earn a buck, or two to go with the fame. 

Oh!....Welcome!  

K Kon112HOGR Forum Member
Originally Posted by Adriatic:

Fridge-I go with 7" too. There are a few cars tall enough to warrant it. Allows extended pantographs(still shorter than the few tall cars). Any future chance of a catenary will need about that too.

 

Nice layout! Complexed, BIG! You may wish to avoid leaking an original project, or two, and try submitting them for a possible magazine feature first, and maybe earn a buck, or two to go with the fame. 

Oh!....Welcome!  

THANKS!!! Yea I want to try to get in a magazine, our lighting needs to be better too... I probabaly leaked way to much already lol. theres still lots to do and details waited to be added like all the people we have to place and finish cover other areas...

 

A AdriaticOGR Forum Member

Hey I forgot about rail head height differences form road beds. Minimum 6-5/8" for me from rail head up.

 

Starting this post, I realized I did not check under a taller O tubular track, and had carved an intricate cliff tip right in the path of the pantographs. Broke it off just now. no more carving even needed.

My tallest is a tmcc E-44 Virginian. Pant.s up, and contacts tilted, it needs 6-1/4" from railhead up. 

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Originally Posted by Kon112H:

Water cured and added some rocks. Came out great for our 1st attempt ever at the whole water scene.. The Cat Tails are by JTT only $8 for 24!.. new Video and better pics asap!

Thank you every one for the Positive feedback!

Very nice!  What did you use for the water, some sort of epoxy?  Or a commercial product?

 

Originally Posted by Adriatic:

Hey I forgot about rail head height differences form road beds. Minimum 6-5/8" for me from rail head up.

 

Starting this post, I realized I did not check under a taller O tubular track, and had carved an intricate cliff tip right in the path of the pantographs. Broke it off just now. no more carving even needed.

My tallest is a tmcc E-44 Virginian. Pant.s up, and contacts tilted, it needs 6-1/4" from railhead up. 

Thanks.  I was figuring ~1/2" for the roadbed & rails. 

K Kon112HOGR Forum Member
LOL!   My Racing buddy Says that to me, He said I should put RATH OF THE KON on my dragster lol

Originally Posted by Adriatic:
Originally Posted by prrhorseshoecurve:

Stunning scenery. I bet some of the masters are thinking this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajsNJtnUb7c

LOL, I didn't want to chase him off, he's too good! Your lines better anyhow.

Sorry Kon, I know, old stuff! But we don't hear it as often, and I'm easily amused .

 

 

wmtrainnut09wmtrainnut09OGR Forum Member

Just finished watching the two latest videos.  The bridge and water scene looks great!  The trees added in the corner make that scene complete.  Seeing five trains running at the same time... AWESOME!  The heritage units are nice.  Saw the Reading unit a couple years ago at Horseshoe Curve while filming.

 

Layout is getting there Kon.  Thanks for keeping us posted.

K Kon112HOGR Forum Member
Thank you very much!  with the snow coming, I will probably be home tomorrow getting a lot done. only problem is the store i pass on my way home from work  was closed and wanted to pick up more trees..... 

Originally Posted by wmtrainnut09:

Just finished watching the two latest videos.  The bridge and water scene looks great!  The trees added in the corner make that scene complete.  Seeing five trains running at the same time... AWESOME!  The heritage units are nice.  Saw the Reading unit a couple years ago at Horseshoe Curve while filming.

 

Layout is getting there Kon.  Thanks for keeping us posted.

 Tonight's work

more tall grass done, coarse turf and wild brush. Forest floor under the trees.

for under Conifer and pine trees these two mixed and add fine earth. works great.

http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php…

TIP: if you drill holes (into Wood) to place trees in layout, Drill and place trees before you add glue and ground cover , Remove the trees in the area you want add ground cover to. find a box of screws to put in the holes where the trees where. no mess or working around the trees..

Hope all the East Coaster's here Stay safe in the snow.



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K Kon112HOGR Forum Member
THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!

can you point out an area or pic, i use alot of different mix's  mostly woodland scenics



Originally Posted by keyrouteken:

Andrew--  I am completely Awe struck and taken aback..  Your layout is absolutely stunning!  Love your videos too!

What do you use for the dark green foliage/grass ??

Take care!

 

KRK

 

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Top pic between the mains mix of dark and med green course turf, earth and soil fine. i just kind of mix and see what happens . the over grown spot you see on the strait is that over top of Lichen with glue in it before applying turf..
 
where trees are i stick with these two mixed and add fine earth.

http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php…

 

2nd pic is WALTHERS grass mat 12mm tall, mix of fine Woodland scenics earth soil and grass..

 


Originally Posted by keyrouteken:

I was curious about these general right-of-way shots where the GREEN is between the adjacent mainlines !!  See photos!

 

KRK

 

 

 

K Kon112HOGR Forum Member
Originally Posted by rshawyer36:

Love the scenery. Superb job. Enjoyed your video! 

THANK YOU!   I have been busy this week and probably did more work then I posted here.  We just changed some things around 2 tonight in the yard area, where the diesels we switched out where parked. keeping all 4 lashed with 16 cars. that area will become industrial sidings. some ideas planed. lots of room  to add nice freight cars and maybe a modern switcher

 

Andrew

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Hi Kon, I'm glad you did. I lost track of your progress. I often think about that stream too. Its nice to reattach the memory back to the maker. 

  I took a hiatus from online use for near a year too. Since my return I've learned a few tricks for Android use, if you are still having issues drop me an email Ill share my work arounds. Hit or miss, but beats striking out.

  I'm catch ring up on mail, but will bookmark and review what I've missed soon.  (Don't you love that autocorrect is shut off but google insists on meddling anyhow? My spelling sucks, but my vocabulary beats anything they have going for sure. I really can't wait till this thing dies, I hate it and want another laptop; never lost it, battery lasted longer, better call quality, and worked better and easier.  Typing speed is a joke. How folks like them, a mystery. Maybe they never used a PC?)

Bump? I just consider this an update, not a bump. To me a bump is a useless posts just to keep something in the recent column. I don't even consider a one line joke a bump. Its more about the intent to me. I don't think many would disagree. I don't even consider a question gone unanswered then bumped, a bump. Timed reasonably and as courteously as possible of course.

Happy Holidays Kon.

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I agree with Adriatic's comments on bumping.  I am glad you did.  That is a nice review of the layout.  If a picture is worth a thousand words, a video is worth a million.  I like your simple but effective lift up bridge.  I will be doing something similar on my new layout.  So it looks like you have a hidden track by the furnace.  Does that go to some off layout staging or is just a loop to get back around the layout?

 I hope you are able to stick around and share some details of your layout!  Thank you!

K Kon112HOGR Forum Member
Adriatic posted:

Hi Kon, I'm glad you did. I lost track of your progress. I often think about that stream too. Its nice to reattach the memory back to the maker. 

  I took a hiatus from online use for near a year too. Since my return I've learned a few tricks for Android use, if you are still having issues drop me an email Ill share my work arounds. Hit or miss, but beats striking out.

  I'm catch ring up on mail, but will bookmark and review what I've missed soon.  (Don't you love that autocorrect is shut off but google insists on meddling anyhow? My spelling sucks, but my vocabulary beats anything they have going for sure. I really can't wait till this thing dies, I hate it and want another laptop; never lost it, battery lasted longer, better call quality, and worked better and easier.  Typing speed is a joke. How folks like them, a mystery. Maybe they never used a PC?)

Bump? I just consider this an update, not a bump. To me a bump is a useless posts just to keep something in the recent column. I don't even consider a one line joke a bump. Its more about the intent to me. I don't think many would disagree. I don't even consider a question gone unanswered then bumped, a bump. Timed reasonably and as courteously as possible of course.

Happy Holidays Kon.

Thank You very much !  I been very active on Facebook Groups since fall..  here is that stream with sound I recorded from  a Rail Fan trip. 

Also Subscribe to my youtube, My goal is add a min of one or two videos a week show casing some different scenes and progress.

 

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Mark Boyce posted:

I agree with Adriatic's comments on bumping.  I am glad you did.  That is a nice review of the layout.  If a picture is worth a thousand words, a video is worth a million.  I like your simple but effective lift up bridge.  I will be doing something similar on my new layout.  So it looks like you have a hidden track by the furnace.  Does that go to some off layout staging or is just a loop to get back around the layout?

 I hope you are able to stick around and share some details of your layout!  Thank you!

Thanks  Mark! the lift bridge is simple and practical. So the Main outside Loop Enters that room in the tunnel you see the big boy sitting in. makes a left along the back wall behind the heater and comes across the bridge on to outside section of the layout Passes the downtown area into yard takes a 1/2 turn onto the main layout to cross the creek.  Prior to November 2016 the outside of the layout was a Staging yard.  Dad and I kept saying it would be neat to make trains run around the outside so,  with out redoing all sorts of stuff we cut out the old oil tank and cleaned up and added 4x6 of layout in there plus removed the wall to.

 

Also theres a 20FT siding that wraps around the heater room for a 16 car Modern line pulled by 4 engines. video coming soon

 

 

Another Creek Video

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A AdriaticOGR Forum Member

YouTube doesn't really work well for me anymore, but I'll try. Second device, second provider since July too. I cant even send feedback or enter the help forums even if it does play. (Though a couple channels always seem ok..?) I think it worked about 2-3 days a month on average. I couldn't even start a new thread here till a week or two ago. Other than a thank you for it now working, my last new thread was August, lol. Reply is fine,. Likes are iffy. Attachment tool &full composer iffy.

K Kon112HOGR Forum Member
Mark Boyce posted:

Kon,

Yes simple and practical, my two middle names!!  Is that the Empire Builder in that video?  Sounds great!  The dog thought I was running the train!

 Thank you for all the photos and videos.

Thanks Mark!!   Yeah the station announcements are the empire builder too.  The cars we had on a shelve are from 2001 there's 3 more that we'll never find that go with the set too but not that worried cause we have no more yard space. 

Also I have another video showing the outside loop and two trains at same time that's going on YouTube tomorrow. I'll post.  Hopefully starting the back mountain tomorrow been sick all week and resting after work. 

A AdriaticOGR Forum Member

  The  red white & blue unit is very cool, the Hiawatha cars too... but together like that, it stalled my brain once the observation car rolled past .

At least it was behind a diesel I actually like a lot .

(ya know, you've likely named it, but"AK Noise" wouldn't be a bad dragster name either. ... there's always the next incarnation  )

(and youtube played upside-down today. Still hit and miss there and I'm on a different device now; I used to figure it was local IP servers, but those aren't involved anymore; youtube just hates me )

K Kon112HOGR Forum Member
Adriatic posted:

  The  red white & blue unit is very cool, the Hiawatha cars too... but together like that, it stalled my brain once the observation car rolled past .

At least it was behind a diesel I actually like a lot .

(ya know, you've likely named it, but"AK Noise" wouldn't be a bad dragster name either. ... there's always the next incarnation  )

(and youtube played upside-down today. Still hit and miss there and I'm on a different device now; I used to figure it was local IP servers, but those aren't involved anymore; youtube just hates me )

The Milwaukee 156 is pretty cool at the time we couldn’t find anything else to pull the cars the steam engine is on the shelve needs a board.. a lot of the Milwaukee cars exist still so it’s kinda fictional fun idea. Next layout we’ll have the steam engine updated probably and have an electric maybe too.  

Ha dragster don’t have a name besides my 1st child. If we ever get another will my fiancé’s ride so will be our 2nd child cause our dog is our 1st lol. 

K Kon112HOGR Forum Member
pennsynut posted:

Just saw this thread.  I guess I have been skimming the general threads too much and missing the neat things going on in this part of the forum and scenery forums. So, a belated congrats on an interesting layout and I really like seeing trains on  that bridge expanse. 

Thanks. I only post here November to March lol  I’m way to busy in the The warm months to get to they Layout. This spring hopefully just adding details is left.   Only a few bare spots are left then going to see what needs an update and details.  

Got this awesome atlas O car last night 

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Just found your thread - nice work on the layout! Looks good and runs well. Some nice scenic detail all around like the cracked asphalt.

I am not a fan of the burning switch tower - negativity in a very positive layout - but, it's a reality check.

Thanks for posting the new update

Merry Christmas to you and Dad - that's the best part - having the time together doing this

K Kon112HOGR Forum Member
Moonman posted:

Just found your thread - nice work on the layout! Looks good and runs well. Some nice scenic detail all around like the cracked asphalt.

I am not a fan of the burning switch tower - negativity in a very positive layout - but, it's a reality check.

Thanks for posting the new update

Merry Christmas to you and Dad - that's the best part - having the time together doing this

Thank you! Yeah it’s fun the last he’s been working 2nd shift so I rarely see him but Monday he was home for the last ground cover. 

 Merry Christmas you too. 

 

K Kon112HOGR Forum Member

Just a Quick Update, been Super busy with so many things the past month and now back to layout focus somewhat.

Some changes in the track plan are going to happen this week and Some Orange Boxes will be coming in at the local store For my father..  Buying them boxes made us finally commit to an important  track change. So sometime saturday will have  an extra loop and three will all be 072 and bigger.

For now i am going to leave a new camera angle since getting a new tripod for close up track side views.

 

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Kon112H posted:

Some changes in the track plan are going to happen this week and Some Orange Boxes will be coming in at the local store For my father..  Buying them boxes made us finally commit to an important  track change. So sometime saturday will have an extra loop and three will all be 072 and bigger.

 

Great layout, nice video. Surprised that "Orange boxes" require larger diameter curves

K Kon112HOGR Forum Member
BobbyD posted:
Kon112H posted:

Some changes in the track plan are going to happen this week and Some Orange Boxes will be coming in at the local store For my father..  Buying them boxes made us finally commit to an important  track change. So sometime saturday will have an extra loop and three will all be 072 and bigger.

 

Great layout, nice video. Surprised that "Orange boxes" require larger diameter curves

Thanks!  Well we want to make he changes for multiple reasons and I hate seeing Scale passenger cars 054.  

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pennsynut posted:

Just saw this thread.  I guess I have been skimming the general threads too much and missing the neat things going on in this part of the forum and scenery forums. So, a belated congrats on an interesting layout and I really like seeing trains on  that bridge expanse. 

Yes, it is easy to skim the general threads, or only look at the Recent Posts column too much!  Andrew has been doing a great job here on this one!

K Kon112HOGR Forum Member

Hello all , big announcement here.    After almost 4 years and many changes it’s time for  complete rebuild.  New layout will be 23x21 42” off the walls with a 96” less wide island.  We figured out how to go through the steps so no more lift bridges or crawling under it.   

I don’t get on here much but I’ll try to..

Stay tuned  

 

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SIRT posted:

Going forward with your layout progress, I would like to suggest posting it over here - What did you do on your layout today? It would fit better there plus you might get more interaction with other builders as well. Just a thought. 

I will. I am so busy Always but want to post more as time goes on, we have a lot planned out already having so much stuff. 

A AdriaticOGR Forum Member

   Kon, he is right on exposure being better there, but as a record of what you have done, this thread is "safer".  "What did you do on your layout today" gets "cleaned" by ogrf staff on occasion, so there is no guarantee that it will be there tomorrow.

  Better might be to post there occasionally, and save the details for posterity in this thread.

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Mark Boyce posted:

Looks good Andy!  It is great you have enough space for those wide curves and a turntable and roundhouse!!

Thanks ! Not sure about a round house yet cause it will also be in a super easy spot to reach too.  But yes the whole idea of the new layout is run ability and access.  The turntable will be 36” too.   There was a lot of planning before we started the rebuild.  Hopefully Friday we will have lots more done. Just hard to find time too. Probably working a lot of OT this week too. 

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Other good news sold all the old mth track in less then a week too..

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Been super busy with lots of stuff but finally found time for the layout this week.  Turntable is fully operational just need some fine tuning and adjustments. Ordered some gears/belt drive for it.   

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ObsidianObsidianOGR Forum Member

Kon,  Great work on the new layout!  I especially like how you re-purposed the middle table into a round table.   On your custom turntable, did you consider using a circle of say O31 or O42 with a unused pair of trucks to support the turntable bridge?  I cant see in the videos/pics how the ends of the bridge is supported thru the 360 degree arc.

K Kon112HOGR Forum Member
Obsidian posted:

Kon,  Great work on the new layout!  I especially like how you re-purposed the middle table into a round table.   On your custom turntable, did you consider using a circle of say O31 or O42 with a unused pair of trucks to support the turntable bridge?  I cant see in the videos/pics how the ends of the bridge is supported thru the 360 degree arc.

Thank you.  There’s actually part of the old Layout under the island area still lol. It was helpful for a shelve too. We really thaught everything out for operations with a turntable.

the rail idea I tried atlas and super hard to get every thing right. So I have saucer bearings on the middle and ends. The middle set rolls on a metal plate wire a power wire connected. I know it’s not super prototype stuff, but I think I have $200 into the whole thing that’s including a belt drive set up I am probably going to install.  Also a voltage regulator mite be In the future.  

I am probably going to do a video when I find time of the whole thing the way it is now..  

Right now the Motor is connected to a 8mm rod to a hub on the bridge. The under side has a 8mm bearing to keep it aligned and smooth 

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Looks great!!  Congratulations on your first trip to York.  I made my first trip last October, and it was great.  I went again this past April.  I didn't buy much, but what I did buy was unique and at nice prices.  I don't really go to shows and meets to buy much, my interest is just seeing everything and meeting folks I know and new folks.  I met several ORG forum members for the first time.  Have a great time!!!!

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