You might want to e-mail him and let him know what you want like I did so he will know how many to produce. He did refund my initial reservation when he initially cancelled the project. He indicated the project was not dead even at that time but did not have the needed reservations to do them the way he wanted. His e-mail indicated the pandemic is retarding his progress on this project though.
"Returned all the deposits" !
He is an honourable man - a contrast with one or two of the current US brass non-importers who talk big but deliver little. **** one of them does not even talk big but hides away in silence.
Interesting that a recent O Scale Resource (an excellent publication) had an article on legal remedies to take when your deposit disappears.
How about something smaller like a prairie of the ATSF or Milwaukee Road! What is the obsession with large locomotives which require a large radius not to mention a huge layout to look good.
Markets sort of dictate which models are produced. Larger steam is apparently easier to produce at a profit.
Sunset has done quite a few smaller steam locomotives over the years.
Interesting that a recent O Scale Resource (an excellent publication) had an article on legal remedies to take when your deposit disappears. What Issue is it?
Which Issue is it?
@nikkormat posted:Which Issue is it?
September/October 2021
I’m with swrr on this. I own 4 Glacier Park SP models 2-8-0, 2-6-0, and 0-6-0 as well as 2 Division Point 4-6-0’s and they all will handle a 36” radius curve I have in one hidden return loop. I’m quite sure if more small high end models that could handle tighter curves were available you’d see an increase in people building layouts in O scale. Not everybody has the room or wealth to build layouts with 72” curves……
Peter
@Peter E B posted:I’m with swrr on this. I own 4 Glacier Park SP models 2-8-0, 2-6-0, and 0-6-0 as well as 2 Division Point 4-6-0’s and they all will handle a 36” radius curve I have in one hidden return loop. I’m quite sure if more small high end models that could handle tighter curves were available you’d see an increase in people building layouts in O scale. Not everybody has the room or wealth to build layouts with 72” curves……
Peter
I think a lot of guys would settle for even small not-so-high end models! 
@mwb posted:I think a lot of guys would settle for even small not-so-high end models!
Sunset 3d Rail have lots of small engines but unfortunately they don’t handle tight curves. There was a fellow on the forums posting his SP 2-6-0 would not negotiate 48" curves. I believe the issue it non-jointed main rods not allowing adequate side to side play of the drivers.
Peter
@Peter E B posted:Sunset 3d Rail have lots of small engines but unfortunately they don’t handle tight curves. There was a fellow on the forums posting his SP 2-6-0 would not negotiate 48" curves. I believe the issue it non-jointed main rods not allowing adequate side to side play of the drivers.
Peter
They do? What's been done recently? All I see are a few 3 rail 0-6-0 switchers.
Main rods are never "jointed".
A Mogul with rigid drivers would probably do 36" radius, but the problem is always the lead truck and drawbar. Realism and tight radius are opposites.
@mwb posted:They do? What's been done recently? All I see are a few 3 rail 0-6-0 switchers.
I buy everything second hand so I don’t really keep current on offerings.
Peter
@bob2 posted:Main rods are never "jointed".
A Mogul with rigid drivers would probably do 36" radius, but the problem is always the lead truck and drawbar. Realism and tight radius are opposites.
Here’s a video that disproves that:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qa...JM&feature=share
100% stock Glacier Park 2-8-0 traversing a 36” radius S curve with no straight track between the curves.
Tomorrow I’ll post a photo of what I call “jointed” main rods I’m probably not using the right terminology but don’t know the proper term
Peter
@Peter E B posted:I buy everything second hand so I don’t really keep current on offerings.
Peter
So your claim that "Sunset 3d Rail have lots of small engines" is retrospective.
@bob2 posted:A Mogul with rigid drivers would probably do 36" radius, but the problem is always the lead truck and drawbar.
That has been my experience - mainly the lead truck.
Realism and tight radius are opposites.
That is inaccurate as a general statement. How tight a radius can you run an 0-4-0? Or, single truck trolleys vs. 2 trucks trolleys? Or, B-B vs. C-C diesels? Wheel arrangement is an active variable.
FWIW: the All Nation Ten Wheeler(s) I have will run on Atlas 36"R track...as "bob2" likes to say: "your milage may vary...". 🙂
Mark in Oregon
I stand by my general statement. Even an 0-4-0 will encounter a curve it cannot handle without larger treads and flanges and really wide drawbar and coupler swing. A video of a very nice model on 36" radius does not disprove my general statement, and says nothing about a rigid wheelbase.
I do not have any 36" radius track, and am mainly interested in scale couplings - I do have a number of locomotive with one piece side rods, although I have had castings done with full clevis joints for my more recent efforts. Stevenson has the masters, and they are as good as the CLW rods.
@Peter E B posted:Sunset 3d Rail have lots of small engines but unfortunately they don’t handle tight curves. There was a fellow on the forums posting his SP 2-6-0 would not negotiate 48" curves. I believe the issue it non-jointed main rods not allowing adequate side to side play of the drivers.
Peter
There was a fellow on what forums? Who is this fellow?
I have Sunset 2-8-8-2s that will negotiate 48" curves easily. Of course that is like having 2 consolidations back to back. I'll have to check my 4-8-2 and 4-8-0.
