Lionel 2015 Volume 1 Predictions

I predict that it will be full of trains and a bunch of them will be from previous catalogs

They will have to put the PS-5 gondolas back in the catalog, due to production delays.

 

 

Andrew

Lionel will attempt to join the 44t "band wagon" and take 2+years in doing so. A p.e. scale combo car may be added for Christmas catalog for 2015.

PRR T1 4-4-4-4 vision line and UP FEF 4-8-4 --they are remaking the old engines--dont expect anything new

After reading the Collectors Gallery in run 276, I think we're well overdue for a Legacy

0-6-0 B6 switcher.

I figure after Lionel used this year to release the 10th anniversary addition of the Polar Express, they'll release an upgrade to the product line in the form of a Polar Express LionChief + Engine and tender. Hopefully with the same sound sets available in the 10th anniversary addition.

We keep buying the upgrades no reason to stop now.

Looking for a Vision Line or at least Legacy J3a Hudson. Now that I'm broke...I'm sure they will do it!!! LOL.

With the success of Lion-ChiefPlus( I had a good feeling about it) I hope to see some more steamers as well as some F-3's.

Polar Express? What can you say? It's going to run for a LOOONG time.It's a lot of fun!!

Lionel already announced there would be no vision line engine this year.

I agree!

 

And, I predict that: I will say beforehand (as now) that there is little I can imagine I want that much, but that I will see some stuff in there I have to have and blow the whole planned train budget right there.  

 

K-Line made an awesome 4-6-6 tank engine years ago.  Someone - I have no idea who -  has the castings and all for it.  I would love to see a Legacy version of that.  Mine is getting really really old, obsolete, and worn out. 

I would be very interested in the Boston and Albany 4-6-6 tank steamer if they made the correct passenger coaches to go with it.  Which is why I passed on the K Line version several years ago.  

LionChief Plus PRR Baby K-4.  This would fall right in line with the previous Hudson and Pacific tooling used.

 

Jon  

I'd be in on a Tank engine as well in Boston & Albany.

 

Don't know what became of the light Mountain engine produced in the early 2000's. Would love to see a Rutland version. Anything Rutland. Perhaps a 10 Wheeler.

I predict there will be gripes and groans! Too much of this, not enough of that. Pretty much like every catalog! 

Speaking of... a LionChief Plus RS-3 in Rutland, with an Operating Milk Car, 6464-type boxcar, flat with marble slabs, and a NYC-type woodsided caboose would make a great set!

 

 

Jon  

I'm hoping that we will see some more modern Lionchief Plus diesels. I'm hoping to see maybe an SD40 or GP 38 in CN or CP. They could certainly resurrect the Lionmaster SD90 tooling and release those as Lionchief Plus engines with some new roadnames. 

 

On the steam side I would love to see a new version of the Reading Crusader!!

 

Jay in Ottawa

 

Agree with several others. An expansion of the popular Lion Chief Plus line with some new steamers and diesels.

Lee

 

That 4-6-6- would be AWESOME in LC-Plus I would empty my pockets for that one!!!!

 

It's an eye catcher of a steamer!! Would look really nice on the layout!!

 

There is a new President at the helm and this is probably the 1st new catalog that his team has an opportunity to put their handprint fully on. So I do predict something new and not all rehash from prior years. They will want to make a statement. And judging from the success of the Vision Line BB and other top end products they achieved at the end of 2014, I am reasonable optimistic for something new.

 

 

Need a legacy genesis. And more Amtrak items.  Would love to see not only Amtrak engins and cars but also stations that say Amtrak

Legacy Southern Railway E8s.

 

Neal Jeter

Ditto! 

And of course, more sports themed and fantasy sets that just require different decals and painting.

If anything different comes out it will either be BTO and/or cost over $1200.

At best, we might...might get more LionChief engines added that are not just additional road names to what is already out there, i.e. repaint and decal.

Also, anything requiring new tooling will take 2+ years to arrive.

Still waiting for Neil Young Signature Series passenger cars.

How long does it take to make a passenger car?

 

I'm still hoping for a Lionchief Plus Reading and Northern 425 (with the maroon Reading and Northern Passenger cars). I mean, it's a Pacific. They could do a lot of different engines with that tooling.

 

Sorry if I sound like a broken record lol

One can only hope. I believe Lionel has "legacy rehashed" nearly every loco offered in the last 12 -14 years except the J3a....... and theres always that Niagara, that could be redone, WITHOUT all of the defects.

 

Mike R are you reading this???? ........berkshires and mohawks.....berkshires and mohawks...... enough already

Scale GG1. 

How about some Legacy E3's E5's, E6's in popular roadnames?

Seems the bulldog E series diesels this year was a big hit...

I predict all the preview items in the back of the last catalog will be in the next catalog.

-Greg

Please DO NOT make a UP FEF with whistle smoke.

 

Need a break after those nice VL BBs!

A re-cataloging of the Smoke Fluid Loader, since it's getting close to ready for delivery (wishful thinking for this 2011 order - though I will agree it's better to be delayed than defective).

 

A Walt Disney Carolwood Pacific set, possibly re-igniting the Heritage Series. (i.e, BFOC, John Bull, Stourbridge Lion, Dewitt Clinton and Lincoln Funeral train style)  Legacy would be cool, but possibly too hard to fit in if the engine is to be scale.

 

-Dave

 

 

 

Don't be surprised to see an $1199 MSRP on it, just to push the price envelope again. Afterall, Lionel's gotta keep pace with their inflated MSRP's.    The Lionel JLC versions carried an $899 price-tag, but that was quite awhile ago.

 

MTH has held the $899 price-point with their recent GG-1's, but the street price is often much less.  MB Klein just had a SUPER sale on MTH locomotives around Christmastime, and I snagged a scale GG1 for $550.  

 

David

 

 

I think that's a pretty prudent move on their part.  They already have the Y6b due out in mid-year which should anchor down the $1400-$1500 price-point quite nicely.  Although there seemed to be no shortage of BB orders at $2K, I don't think the market would absorb another Lionel $2K locomotive so soon -- especially on the heels of the Y6b's street price, which seriously dilutes the Vision Line value proposition.

 

David

I'd like to see a high-end scale UP "Big Blow" Gas Turbine.

 

I'd also like to see some more scale tank cars (33K LPG tankers).

 

 

My prediction is that anything that strikes my fancy will cost more than I'm willing to spend unless there's a fire ball on it.

Count on it!

 

David

I hate to beat a dead horse year after year, but just give me 1 EJ&E item.

Hmmm.....I wish........

My hopes and wants...

• Alco RS-11 Demonstrators
• scale Lionel livery diesel

Hmmm...this seems like a distinct possibility! Makes sense.

ALCO HH660. B&M; EJ&E......

Agreed, they did the Lionchief PRR  Mikado, now if they would only get the headlight placement right.......

Only this time they will have pricing that we can all complain very loudly about, then go ahead and ante up anyway to be certain to get the ones we want.

 

More BTO items.

"Yes" to a Carolwood Pacific. And how about a Disneyland RR General passenger set? With a Lily Belle caboose, of course.

 

I predict everything will be scale only and only run on O72 curves and have lots of fantasy paint schemes like a Daylighter Big Boy, Daylighter scale GG1, and Lionchief remote control freight cars along with a large tablet to hold of your Lionchief remote to run everything at one time.....

I don't care what they bring out as long as they revive and expand the OO line.

That's why I'm worried!

 

Of course, there'll be two versions: grey or black..  

 

Of course, I won't be able to live with out both~!  

 

I was thinking I should create a new business model for Lionel-I PAY Lionel NOT to produce a locomotive I want.  

 

I'll still be money ahead!

RickO - I'm with you, pretty much, on the J3a/Niagara sentiments (though "enough

Mohawks"? Not until Lionel does a can-motored, modern version if the L3 or L4).

 

- the de-bugged Niagara (I have one of the older ones) would be purchased by me, almost

  certainly ("almost" only if circumstances just prevented it).

 

- the Legacy J3a Hudson (unstreamlined) is another issue:

  - if the loco is merely upgraded electronically I would have no intention of buying it.

    I'd love it, but my TMCC versions (more than 1) are so good that I would not feel the

    need to buy the new one. (I've even added shorter drawbars.)

  - if, however, they offer the J3a in it's later (the real loco) iteration (PT tender;

    Worthington SA FWH instead of the Elesco; re-positioned power reverse/running board; modern Gothic lettering style),

    then I'm i big trouble. I actually prefer the earlier (real) J3a a bit, but only a bit,

    so I would want the later version.

  

How about just doing some new roadnames in the GP9 or 35s that have Legacy.

Quick Casey, I too would like to see them expand the OO gauge line.  This would be something unique to the train community.

 

Thanks, Phil     

i think the 844 will be the next vision line engine, but it will be next year

i would think the will have some different road names for the heavy mikados

Pennsylvania Heritage ES44AC

 

Green or black.  WITH rooftop Air Tanks and plumbing.  Please.  Amen.

 

Bryan

 

p.s.  ...and without blind inner axles.

 

Hopefully more new 89' Auto Racks -

 

 

I definitely would buy those auto racks if Lionel made them.

 

Neal Jeter

Now you're talkin', I'll take one in Scale O with Legacy please!

Lionel has been good to me here. They make very little in my road name. I need to do this with MTH, they have my number and are killing me, well my budget anyway!

A LC+ Consolidation please!  Something 1890-1910 preferred.

Not making the ship date......

I'm boycotting Lionel and MTH until I see some F3s and Geeps painted for Chicago & Eastern Illinois.

 

 

Lionel, I will take one of each please:

 

 

ATSF SD70ACe.............................

  

Lionchief Plus PW inspired GG-1's, FM's and EP-5's

 

Art

I predict there won't be anything I want, except they might do a Milwaukee Road USRA Heavy Mikado because they already have the tooling, it's just a paint job, and the Milwaukee had a hundred of them. Of course, all those reasons don't mean it will actually occur to Lionel to make the engine. 

they need to re-release the R30's but in this scheme:

 

 

Have it Signed Up as C,H,J or Z 

I predict that it won't be much different than the last one.

Why is it that these threads always turn from a "what will they" into "I wish they would" thing?

My thoughts exactly.  What happened to my suggestion of trying to guess as close as you can to what will be released?

Probably more ES44, SD70 ACE, or Dash 9 roadnames.  What I wish ....

 

http://www.railpictures.net/vi...d=512797&nseq=13

That would be neat, but I would also enjoy it if they included this:

 

(Until I saw it while visiting, I did not know they ever ran a traditional caboose other than the Lilly Belle at DL)

 

I'm thinking the CP is more likely though.  Maybe not this catalog, but probably sometime in the next year or two.  I could be wrong (but then again, maybe I am on to something).

 

-Dave

 

You can bet that there will be plenty of re-issues with prices that are $20 dollars higher than they were in the catalog from two years ago.  I bought a coaling tower for $150, then saw it in the next year's catalogue for $170.  What's up with that?

B&O Legacy f3's please.

I would love to see the "Flying Scotsman" tinplate  in O gauge - that would be so cool !

 

rdeal

I predict that they will show the 8-door 86' Auto Parts Boxcars in this catalog, but without product numbers.

 

Andrew

NFL team boxcars please.

HOW ABOUT ADD-ON COACHES, DINERS AND SLEEPING CARS FOR THE N&W POCAHONTOS SET??

I'm guessing:

 

SF scale legacy F3's.

 

PRR scale 2-8-0 legacy

 

PRR scale b6 switcher legacy

Is the prediction for SL-SF F3s or ATSF F3s?

 

 

Andrew

Because nobody knows (those that do ain't talkin'.)  "What will" and "wish they" are essentially the same thing at this point in time.

 

Besides, a "wish" could come true and a "prediction" fall flat on it's face or vice-versa.

 

Rusty

Good Morning,

 

I'd take the Frisco F7 ABA set!

 

Regards,

Swafford

^^^^agreed, also how about a porter and a few other "smaller" steamer choices?

Brilliant. Then why not forgo the pretense of "what" and simply go straight to "wish".

Plenty of New and Old operating accessories in Plug and Play mode. Instead of the P&P track why didn't they make a P&P SC2 type activation where you could plug in to an SC2

and still work them from your controller.

Prediction:

They will have a series SEABOARD COAST LINE Traditional O gauge freight cars made: open-top hopper, covered hopper, gondola, waffle-side boxcar, flat car with bulkheads.

 

If not, they will just repeat railroad names on the traditional freight cars.

 

Andrew

Katy GP7's Torpedo boats.......................

Scale PRR Duplex.

OK, I'll bite.

 

Since they have announced that the Gantry Crane will be coming with TMCC capabilities, how about a Mi-Jack Container Lift with TMCC?!!! Talk about an easy home run. The used ones sell real quick when they pop up even if they are broken just so folks can use them as static displays. Just imagine if you could fire it up remotely! I have to stop now, I'm working myself into a frenzy!!! 

 

Also would like to see CN Autorack in all YELLOW paint.

 

Amtrak Viewliners

Prediction:

 

The O Scale 89' Auto Carrier will be shown in the new BNSF TTX all orange scheme.

MTH Proto-IV BIG BOY in full Santa Fe War Bonnet colors that you can operate using your TV remote.

I predict that the O Scale 89' Auto Carrier will not be offered in the D&RGW Rio Grande orange rack on the Trailer Train TTGX yellow and black flat car this catalog, in order to make everybody wait another year.

If the next Lionel catalog due out in February 2015 doesn't have the NS heritage SD60E #6920 locomotive commemorating Veterans, then the product planning folks have really missed the boat again.  End of discussion.  (I'd even settle for an SD70ACe if expensive tooling for a new SD60E is the issue.)

 

 

That locomotive would be an INSTANT sell-out, no matter how we look at the numbers, and it's the only locomotive from the NS heritage fleet (at least that I'm aware of) which hasn't been produced yet.  Why?    It's a blaring omission, so let's hope we see it catalog'd this year...  from Lionel or MTH.  Whoever delivers it first gets my money! 

 

David

 

 

Michael, given it's taken Lionel 3+ years to produce the basic set (now due early Feb 2015), wouldn't it be cool if Lionel catalog'd some add-ons AND had them immediately available with the set???    That would be sweet.

 

David

Here's what i'm hoping to see... Scale detailed NW-2 switchers and a PS-2 NYC boxcar in the experimental logo and color....

 

 

Norfolk Southern F7s.

 

I think Lionel is the only one that hasn't done these.

 

A set of NS F Units and matching cars would break the already broken train fund !!!

Hopefully, a caboose for the Pere Marquette Berk...

Joe

Well I will have to refer to the money I saved over the holiday and stashed away:

 

 

But I know what I am wishing for...

The Allegheny 1601 !

 

 

 

D'oh!

 

I didn't want to say it, but since you did, ABSOLUTELY!

SD70 in UP not seen since 2009' ,  N&W Class A and a N&W Caboose

Mike

Please don't remake the Milwaukee 261 with whistle smoke, nor finally produce a scale Santa Fe Hudson A Green 5 Stripe GG-1 would be nice...

Trainman great suggestion ...................UP SD70M with flared radiators

Swafford, That would be just fine too, but I had my mind on the SD70ACe

 

I got a fever,Yellow fever!

 

MIchael

I'm thinking in the next catalog .................. Union Pacific SD70ACe's! Also, BNSF SD70ACe's!

Regards,

Swafford

After the fantasy SP Daylight AC-12, maybe some ATSF War Bonnets in ES44AC or the  SD70ACe's would be a nice treat. (Sorry John:-)

You're speakin' my language again!

Rocky Mountaineer'

Honoring Our Vets

Could not agree more. You have "HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD" so to speak.

 

Count me in for the TWO (2) units. I would like to give one to my brother for his service in Vietnam.

 

If you agree, chime in and let them know how many units you would buy!!!!!!

I would like to see some of the obscure GG1 schemes in 027.( not pink)

 

also would to see some sort of recognition of the 50th Anniversary of the Peanuts Christmas Special.

 

Also on board with a Vision ATSF F3

 

rat

I predict the trains will be made in China, too expensive; not in the correct road names; not in the correct paint scheme for the period; the color will be off; the horn/whistle will be incorrect; a locomotive that the real railroad never owned will be made in that road name; the locos will produce too much smoke for some and not enough for others; something in the catalog will be the dumbest idea someone on this forum has ever seen; there will be too much of some things and not enough of others...

 

Jeff Davis

Best prediction yet, I think you should get the cigar! Copy this to the MTH catalog predictions thread and you will get two cigars.

Hey great idea deal me in for one. And I agree with an earlyer post,
If its not the same as as the prototype make or model so be it. Its
the cause and the paint scheme that make it special.
Michael

Indeed, if Lionel produced multiple road-numbers, I'd buy multiple units.

 

When Lionel produces multiple road-number diesels, they typically run a prototype road-number powered unit PLUS a fictitious road-number powered unit, and yet another fictitious road-number as a dummy unit.  In that case, I would buy all three of these.

 

When MTH produced their NS Heritage locomotives, they took a different approach -- offering a powered AND dummy in the same road-number, so that folks collecting ALL heritage locomotives could do so true to the prototype without spending big bucks for all powered units.  In that case, I'd probably just purchase the one powered unit and forgo the dummy.

 

David

No more please..... I have enough to pick up! 

Love to see the long ago promised B units for the CC 2343 and 2344 F3 sets,  but they will not be there...not now...not ever !

There you go again Frank, making me salivate on another one of your creations, I am a sucker for any fantasy PRR engine or a B&O Blue and gray without all the flags and flourishes.

would be nice to see more items geared toward females of all ages.

The Texas Special ES44AC.............

 

Regards,

Swafford

The 65% of there O gauge diesel locomotive Models will NOT be accurate....

Now that. THAT is a good idea. I still need an intermodal crane, but if Lionel would do it again this way, then that would making something already great even better!

How about some more decent tank cars. More realistic ones that are heavy in weight.

Swafford,

I like what you did with the Texas Special. Could you please do something similar with the N&W ES44ace or SD70. The solid blue scheme with black trucks seems to be lacking

any character.

Regards Trainman 5

My long-lasting request to Lionel: More Amtrak items! Still waiting for a decent scale Amtrak Legacy locomotive. A Genesis or F40 would be great. They have the tooling for the Dash 8, I wouldn't mind that, either. Maybe Lionel could go out on a limb and make some of the new Viewliners that are just being released.

 

I second the request for an NS Veterans diesel. Lionel's made the SD60 before, all they have to do is make the "Crescent" cab and there you go. It better have an accurate RS5T horn like the prototype - that thing is a killer!

That would mean that they would have ALUMINUM body tank cars produced, similar to the K-Line Tank Cars.  

Nice to see another TS simmer!  

I would like to see a traditional sized articulated like a 2-6-6-2 mallet for us guys with smaller layouts and tighter curves.

Good Day Trainman, 

 

Here are some engines that I painted several years ago. The SD70ACe was to honor the N&W 611.

 

Regards,

Swafford  

yes sir now that's what I'm talking about


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Really good looking, Swafford.

 

I agree with J Daddy. The Allegheny is due & if you remember it came out at the same time originally as the BB back in the late 90's & hasn't been re-made since 2005. Would think that would be the next VL Steamer. Also due is to catch up on all the Station Sound cars that were not made over the last 5 or so years.

Not a lot of predictions, mostly a wish list is what I see posted.  Most of which will never see the light of day.  I think it is a safe prediction that Lionel will produce more Lionchief Plus locomotives.  Anybody can run them without a big expense and they are good value for the money.  I do think that a LC+ Pennsy K-4 will show up at some point. 

Prediction (and wish list):

 

Lionel will continue to milk the Polar Express Franchise, and release a vista dome streamliner passenger car add-on to the streamliner diesel set.  However, I don't know when they announce PE stuff, may come later in the year (newbie here, sorry). 

I predict that they will offer a Chessie System three-bay, open-top hopper in the wrong color scheme, to make everybody wait until the next catalog for the right color scheme.

 

Andrew

My predictions for 2015.....................SD70ACe in UP, BNSF & KCS!.......and UP SD90MAC!

 

 

 fridge56vet - just for fun - if they really wanted to ""milk"" the polar express franchise they could make it in O gauge tinplate - a makeover of a late '30's engine and train - what do you think - i think the "polar people" would go nut's

 

Rdeal

On A More Serious Note: this is not a prediction but something i would like to see and probably would buy if my "checkbook" said, "okay." a bit of background information - when i was ten, mid-fifties i spent the summer with two of my great aunts who lived in a third floor flat in the center of brookhaven, miss - a favorite thing for me to do was to sit on the fire escape and watch the illinois central, "City of New Orleans"- unload and load passengers - on more than one occasion we took the train to Jackson and return - 

 

so, a tinplate "City of New Orleans" would be a fun, nostalgic and interesting tinplate set to run on my "up coming" layout - What do you think??

 

Rdeal

 

 

notch 6 just announced that the Lionel 2015 volume one catalog pod cast 

will be released around 9 am Feb 2, 2015!!!

New tooled streamline passenger cars.

I sincerely hope for a CSX starter set.  I had at least 6 people ask me where to get one this past Christmas. A LC + wouldn't be bad either.

Charlie when will you have all the 2015 items on your website. Thank You

ETA 2030

Legacy version of the 2-8-0s. The 4-6-0s have been upgraded to Legacy, these should be coming next. If not this catalog, because of the others being due, then in the next.

I am surprised that a Milwaukee Road black/orange scheme hasn't been done on the scale Legacy GP7/9s, regardless of prototypical accuracy.

 

Dave 

This in ten different road numbers. Well maybe three.

 

 

"New tooled streamline passenger cars."

 

Charlie, I would say that is very good news for those interested in passenger cars. It has been a long time in coming. Look forward to the new Signature Catalog with greater interest now.

So the REAL question though is "When will the new tooling kick in?".  Lionel already has announced close to a dozen passenger cars sets in the last few years that they are only now just starting to deliver.

 

The CZ has come and gone... and now for the most part quietly forgotten.  No new tooling there to speak of -- aside from perhaps more detailed underbodies, but Lionel is gonna have trouble giving those away due to other glaring issues.   

 

The N&W Pocahontas set is "on deck" for early February, and I recall a post several weeks back by somebody who seemed reasonably impressed with those cars via preview pictures sent to him by Mike R of Lionel.  And I think the MKT Texas Special cars are due in March/April (which are on my wish list ), with lots more sets presumably to follow much later in 2015.  Will any of these have "the new tooling"?

 

I'm hoping 2015 is also the year that we see the return of StationSounds diners, since so many sets since 2010 were announced without them.    So let's hope good thoughts!!!

 

David

 

If Lionel does offer newly tooled streamlined passenger cars I hope they are 21".  What are the odds?

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I realize that the first of the USRA Heavy Mikes are still not here, but I would opt to see Lionel issue that engine in Milwaukee Road.  After all, it was the Milwaukee that ordered and ran 100 copies of that engine, more than any other RR that had them.  So, to see that engine coming out would make some serious adjusting of my train budget become a necessity.

 

Paul Fischer

 

 

The UP yellow Milwaukee Road cars were issued around the same time that Lionel did the UP Yellow version of the Bi-Polar engine. I purchased both the engine and 21" cars and personally like them, but yellow is my favorite color anyway.

 

I don't see the 21" yellow cars come up for auction very often, but the GN blue are always out there. Personally, I never liked the GN blue and much prefer the green and orange combo.

 

I still doubt that Lionel will introduce a line of 21" cars with it's next catalog.

..not in our favor 

 

I still won't be surprised to see an FEF with whistle smoke this year.

I am with you on this, I would love to see a LEGACY/TMCC controlled Mi-Jack Container Lift. I would pre-order one in a minute.