Lionel dealer layout restoration D 224

Yes, can definitely see the difference in the paints on the mountain for this later-50s display.

These pics also remind me that I've always wanted to do a display (my own version) with Super O track. Thinking specifically of something with a space and military theme. Makes me wonder about the supply of Super O track out there.

Good luck on this one!

I think with the advent of ebay you could find enough super O track. I have bought quite a bit of track over the years and power blades readily available. A couple of more shots, I will transfer over pics of restoration project. For the mountain replacement on my not enough felt in 920 kit but I found a source for 100% wool felt of similar color I will use to replace along with fish glue and casein based colors and 919 grass.

Jagrick posted:

I think with the advent of ebay you could find enough super O track. I have bought quite a bit of track over the years and power blades readily available.

Yes, I took a quick peek and there is plenty of Super O and associated products on the Bay. Good to know.

D 224 with shrunken and torn original felt removed. Also added 6 new "tent poles" ( some indication Lionel had planned for more based on pattren from screen: small squares of green paint) that will help support new felt and minimize changes from shrinkage of felt and glue.

Noticed the arch opening next to your drill.

An "access hatch" to get into the mountain?

Yes it is that is a feature Lionel started doing not on some early displays like the D62 i am doing but on others

Look st send photo in first group to see this with mountain around it

Jagrick posted:

Look st send photo in first group to see this with mountain around it

Got it. Good idea.

Here's an old photo from my D-105 build. Although Lionel didn't do it on their version I made a removable piece for access to wiring, etc. under the top level of layout. There's also one on the back side out of view.

I always liked that one and you did a great job on the painting of the scenery

I am about ready to build a building for my display layouts

will the Bugeye and Jag get lonely?

I doubt it I have a 61 spitfire and some ‘66 ford broncos to work on as well as others 

Ha, my first car was a 69 Spitfire,  always a favorite!  Could race that car as hard you want and still not get in too much trouble

Now, it's just the 911, 63 Falcon hardtop, and a 67 Mustang coupe same as yours, projects waiting lol.

63 falcon nice body style I liked the falcon ranchero body style

Not get into trouble with a 69 Spitfire? 

Never late braked into a corner and tried to turn with all that positive camber in the rear? 

o/~ Hark! The Herald axles swing! o/~      

Mountain restoration from collapsed to nee

finished shot

working on coloring felt mountain

Felt drying after being stapled in place

Test runs to check clearance before applying glus soaked felt

Great looking work.

Interesting how the mountain has two separate portals on one end and a larger single one on the other.

Have you placed two trains on track at same time to check side-by-side clearance coming out of that single portal?

That clearance is fine as the track placement was not altered (this is an original Lionel display). The felt will sag until the glue hardens so in these later tunnels the brown paper was there to hold felt up until hardened, and then it often flake/deteriorate out over the years. The earlier tunnels used metal screens that lasted, well forever!!

The larger single because spacing didn't allow 920 portal placement side by side.

Jagrick posted:

That clearance is fine as the track placement was not altered (this is an original Lionel display). The felt will sag until the glue hardens so in these later tunnels the brown paper was there to hold felt up until hardened, and then it often flake/deteriorate out over the years. The earlier tunnels used metal screens that lasted, well forever!!

Yeah, makes sense as this one is original Lionel.

On my D-105 I learned some lessons about building mountains with curved track pieces heading into the portals. I still occasionally have issues today with some larger and newer locos where they just clip the sides. Most of the PW stuff just glides through with no problems.

On the 224 the long passenger cars are the close call but they work but I don’t think a train master would clear In fact on some of these layouts it actually states not to operate the long passenger cars and the trainmasters, I have a D222 that’s the clearly  states that and in fact the portals barely allow the small alcos to clear

Greg Nagy posted:

Not get into trouble with a 69 Spitfire? 

Never late braked into a corner and tried to turn with all that positive camber in the rear? 

o/~ Hark! The Herald axles swing! o/~      

Oh yeah that was my first car. It was no problem for me just set before the corner, kick the rear around, and just hold it with throttle. I had 3.63:1 diff gears from the tr7s dual SU’s and a new 1300 crate engine (this was about 1983). Loved that car. Second car was my 72 911E. That one I still have. Like to find a cheap spit again. Cheap like free lol.

My best friend bought a 79 spit after I got my 69 and we used to tear the streets up as much a possible. Two cars of very different handling traits, but it never bothered me. Mine was always faster. The 79 was heavier and had less power and his was stock withe the big single stromberg on the 1500. He did have OD though. If I ever get another I’ll Spit-6 it or finish my dream of a sbf and t5 in a Spit. And no I wouldn’t cut a good one up. 

Absolutely! I'd never get a TM through my tunnels. And some longer passenger cars are dicey.

Dennis Holler posted:

Greg Nagy posted:

Not get into trouble with a 69 Spitfire? 

Never late braked into a corner and tried to turn with all that positive camber in the rear? 

o/~ Hark! The Herald axles swing! o/~      

Oh yeah that was my first car. It was no problem for me just set before the corner, kick the rear around, and just hold it with throttle. I had 3.63:1 diff gears from the tr7s dual SU’s and a new 1300 crate engine (this was about 1983). Loved that car. Second car was my 72 911E. That one I still have. Like to find a cheap spit again. Cheap like free lol.

 

My best friend bought a 79 spit after I got my 69 and we used to tear the streets up as much a possible. Two cars of very different handling traits, but it never bothered me. Mine was always faster. The 79 was heavier and had less power and his was stock withe the big single stromberg on the 1500. He did have OD though. If I ever get another I’ll Spit-6 it or finish my dream of a sbf and t5 in a Spit. And no I wouldn’t cut a good one up. 

One of my racing buddies has a Spit with the Ford Essex v-6 in it for the street. Beastly. I'll stick to my Mini, Spridgets, and MGBs, thanks.

Hey Rick,

Check this American Flyer display layout out...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AMERI...0:g:KqgAAOSwUlxbpDDm

That is cool and years ago I had some flyer but had to draw a line some where for my collecting. However I have done the artwork for some of the postwar flyer dealer display shelves and have thought about making a few for sale but demand for that stuff seems to not meet the cost of production.