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I'm rather surprised nobody spoke of the new bridges Lionel aired in the new 2015 catalog.

 

I sure could use a couple on the High Line.  Are they Die cast? They remind me of the previous release of the very detail swing bridge model.

But these appear longer?

 

What do you think?

 

 

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Originally Posted by Paul Kallus:

JDaddy, being a bridge aficionado, I saw these and thought the lift-up feature is a great idea. I need a lift-up or lift-out bridge to span across a closet door but these new bridges are only 30" long whereas I need to span at least 36".

I was thinking the same thing, no way this girlish figure is going to make through a thirty inch isle-way... especially with drink and snack in hand...

Elliot certainly hit the nail on the head by asking how tall the opening is from the railhead to the upper superstructure; people purchasing this bridge will obviously likely have some scale cars to put through it.

BTW; you shouldn't have to listen to a Podcast to get that info-anyone with some marketing skills should be able to figure out what is necessary information and post in in the item description in the catalog..

If I could do this with two LLC Lift bridges on 3/4 inch oak and door closers to brace you can create a beautiful span with the new bridge in 2015 catalog utilizing the swing bridge tooling to cross your RR aisle and I have been operating this lift bridge for 8 years now and had busloads of people from conventions pass thru it with zero trouble.

 

 

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Nice looking bridge.  Reminds me of the Madien Lane bridge in Albany, at least I think that one swings. Please , correct me if mistaken.

Fred

I have always had an infinitey for bridges. My great, great grandfather was a contractor and built part of the Post Road from Albany to Boston in the early to mid eigthteen hundreds. Bridges have been a big part of transportation here in Albany and surrounds, from the 126th steeet bridge inTroy to the Dunn Menmorial in Albany. This is how we tranverse the Hudson.

I may have to find a place for Lionels recent offering.

 

The length including the modular piers is 39"

The way I would mount one this is plenty wide, even in front of a standard 36" door.

 

While they don't specify the number, the text does say the height accommodates scale rolling stock.

 

 

It's funny how the same couple people (Dennis) slam Lionel over every new product they introduce.

Must be fun at parties.

 

 

Originally Posted by Dennis LaGrua:
Originally Posted by J Daddy:

Yes the price is a buzz killer (299.00),  but I cannot figure if you get one bridge or two?

 

 

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Nice looking but three hundred dollars for a plastic bridge that costs maybe $10-$15 to make. They must think that their consumers are dummies.

Dennis- 

I believe the bridges themselves are die cast like the swing bridge if its made from the same tooling.

one of our club members has this accessory and the details on the bridge are amazing.

I like having unique models on the layout and this fits the bill.

Price -  don't get your panties in a bunch, wait and see, I am hoping they are about a 100 a piece.

Comparatively speaking, I believe the Atlas single track truss in over 100.00.

 

Originally Posted by CBQer:

 

 

i just built 2 Plastrut truss bridges with shipping were 58.00 each and took about 5 hours each. And I built them.

 

Dick

Are you referring to the #3002 O scale Truss bridge kit? 

 

I've been considering doing one or two of them; and, after I called Plastruct, was directed to a lady at Plastruct for information on making the single track bridge a double track; and, lengthening the 30" to 36" length--the product description on their website says this is easy to do.  Sent her an email today and awaiting her reply.  I'll post the information I receive.

 

If you find the time, post pictures of the bridges.  Thanks.

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Originally Posted by AMCDave:
Originally Posted by CBQer:

 

 

i just built 2 Plastrut truss bridges with shipping were 58.00 each and took about 5 hours each. And I built them.

 

Dick

That's my plan.......Plus I can make the exact bridge I want...not what someone makes. And bridges are pretty easy compared to some structures.

Ditto,

 

I need to make just the sides to pretty up this drop down section:

 

 

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I think the long side might be 37"-38".

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I think the bridge is very neat.  I appreciate the fact that Lionel is offering new products that meet a need for hobbyists that may not be able to engineer their own lift out section.  I also appreciate that it works with all track systems, and that the piers are configurable and flexible.  I don't have a need for one right now, but I may buy it to keep for when we eventually do another layout.

 

As to the price, I noticed it was not inexpensive but once again, and not to sound like someone who doesn't have bills and expenses like everyone else, it surprises me that folks who routinely spend hundreds of dollars a year, if not more, on additional locomotives (that none of us need, btw) would balk at the catalog price of an item that is new and very innovative.  If I had to pay the $300 for the bridge, I probably would on the theory that unlike the locomotives, the accessories can actually be one-off and done for a long while.  In reality and as people know, the street price will likely be a good deal lower.  So as I said, I am not sure where the criticism originates -- costs for everyone are higher across the board and this is just another example.   Do I like it?  Nope, but I will budget accordingly and not allow it to dampen my enthusiasm for the product or the hobby in general.  The only question with respect to this item and others is really can I properly afford it?  No different than any other consumer item.

 

For those who can build their own structures, that's great too and a terrific part of the hobby as well.  But I wouldn't mock others who would pay to have a nice bridge that they themselves probably couldn't replicate.

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BTW the question was... "is it the same as a previous swing bridge product?"  Which was answered in the podcast.  Not sure that information is required for the catalog description.
 
Originally Posted by D&H 65:

BTW; you shouldn't have to listen to a Podcast to get that info-anyone with some marketing skills should be able to figure out what is necessary information and post in in the item description in the catalog..

 

Originally Posted by AMCDave:

It says 30 inches long. Doubt its die cast.......a casting the long and that thin would cause a high number of rejects in manufacture. Plastic is fine and with that much fine detail my bet.

My only question is cost......if shown I can read it. That big to costly for me I bet........but GREAT looking!

The catalog description refers to "molded" rivet detail.

Originally Posted by MartyE:
BTW the question was... "is it the same as a previous swing bridge product?"  Which was answered in the podcast.  Not sure that information is required for the catalog description.
 
Originally Posted by D&H 65:

BTW; you shouldn't have to listen to a Podcast to get that info-anyone with some marketing skills should be able to figure out what is necessary information and post in in the item description in the catalog..

 

I think the catalog missed a bragging right. made in die-cast is a nice selling point for me.

The information that I gave is specific to an older product and is irrelevant to the description.  Is it really needed to be in the catalog that the bridge is based on the swing bridge accessory from years ago? I don't think so.
 
The podcast interview only gave the information as to how the bridge was conceived and what tooling it was based on.  Not on the details of the current product.  It wasn't a point by point catalog description.  I pointed jdaddy to the pod cast to confirm his suspicions of the bridge being based on the swing bridge.
 
That's not to say some additional detail could of / should of been given.
 
 
Originally Posted by palallin:

Absolutely the information SHOULD be in the catalog.  There should be no reason to have to listen to a podcast--whatever a podcast is and however one listens to it (as I have no idea).  That is what the catalog is for:  providing product information.

 

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