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About a year ago I pre-ordered a Lionel U30C - a much later loco than my early-50's layout's theme, but any locomotive called a "U-Boat"  . . .  

 

It ran well but had occasional stick-in-neutral anomalies.   Jon Z at Lionel offered to look at it.  In what was one of the most embarrassing things I've ever done, I shipped him my trusty older SD70 instead (Hey, they are kept one above the other on the shelf and they look a lot alike, particularly with both are in UP livery).

 

Anyway, he returned the SD70 along with the new replacement board for my U-boat, and when I went to install it - well, I cracked the shell putting it back on.  Badly.  Two pieces . . . 

 

So I ordered a second one, and when it arrived, it would not get out of neutral, period.  Not on a Z4000.  Not on a CW80.  Nothing i could do -- neutral, with those great U-boat idle sounds tantalizing me . . . but no movement.  I was too embarrassed to send it back to Lionel, and not about to take it apart.  So I concluded I was jinxed as to U30Cs and put it up on the shelf. 

 

This morning I was up in the train room waiting for my 24 test to complete, and on a whim I took it down and put it on my #3 loop, and . . . it ran perfectly.  O joy!  What a great locomotive!  It has just fantastic diesel sounds.  I swear I can hear the valves (or tappets) at idle.  

 

My luck has changed, I think.  Maybe it was the 24 hour test, or maybe that little Y6B I ran for a day had some magic in it.  

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Originally Posted by Dennis:

Uh, maybe you just grabbed the wrong engine again and the bad one is still on the shelf.

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Dennis

No, I worried about that, Dennis - as absent minded as i get anymore . . . its my U-boat alright!!!  And i'd know once I started it, the SD70 is older and has that sort of generic "I'm a diesel" railsounds or whatever - the U-boat on the other hand has the most impressive sound of any loco I have: you really can't compare it to steamers but in a very real way its sound is better than even Vision steamers -- its the only loco I own that makes me go "wow!" in a big way when I hear it.  Not sure why its sound is is so special, but whatever it is, it has it in a big way.  

Well, Lionel's website says it will run on O-31 curves.  Sometimes a loco will run on curves a few inches sharper than the manufacturer promises, sometimes not, but I would think Lionel would mention it runs on O27, so I sort of doubt it.  I know my U30C runs very well on 36.

 

I have some 27" curves in a box and will put together a half circle see if it fits on them tonight. 

Thanks Lee. I thought that I was running with O-31 curves but that is not the case. I'm hoping the U30C can handle the curves (possibly separated by a strait). I appreciate your help and insight.
 
 
Originally Posted by Lee Willis:

Well, Lionel's website says it will run on O-31 curves.  Sometimes a loco will run on curves a few inches sharper than the manufacturer promises, sometimes not, but I would think Lionel would mention it runs on O27, so I sort of doubt it.  I know my U30C runs very well on 36.

 

I have some 27" curves in a box and will put together a half circle see if it fits on them tonight. 

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