Mth 611 J sound file

Is that a premier or railking Mike?

I've always thought the whistle on the railking version 30-1479 sounded better. Maybe you could use its file.

Posting the catalog # would be helpful.

I'd have to disagree with what RickO suggests above.  It's not advised to use Railking sound files on Premier versions and vice-versa.  The term "sound file" itself is a misnomer, as it contains more than just the soundset.  The sound files also contain algorithms that account for model-specific attributes such as wheel diameters and feature sets, which you can be almost assured will have differences between the two; especially with steam engines since the wheel diameter of a Premier steamer will pretty much be larger than it's Railking counterpart.  As forum member Barry puts it, it's actually a "personality file."

So loading a sound file that's not meant for the specific product (such as Railking or Premier) can result in undesirable performance behaviors, biggest one that comes to mind is potential mismatched speed steps so that the engine may run too fast or too slow in relation to actual SMPH parameters.

I believe it is the 2008 volumn 2,  mth premier 20-3364-1, the one with quilable whistle

You can use this filtered search of Premier J engines, drill into each one and try to find a sound file that will work with yours: 

http://www.mthtrains.com/searc...team%20Locomotive%22

You'll want to make sure the sound file you look for is for the 3volt system and not the older 5-volt.

Understood John, so then all of the "rave" over being able to download different sounds for PS2 rally doesnt apply. You can only download the "appropriate" sound for your  locomotive?

In the past folks have always made it sound as though "if you don't like the whistle your locomotive has, just download one you do". Does that mean you have find another premier j (from a different release) or does MTH offer alternate sound files that apply?

Got it, thanks for the info!

The whistle on the real N&W J was not typically what one would expect on a big steam engine. The J's whistle has a relatively low frequency sound unique to the N&W. However, it is masculine as opposed to the wimpy non-masculine Banshee whistle of the PRR.

The whistle in my Imperial N&W J is right-on what the the J611 sounded like.

The quillable whistle sound file for the J is weak, I didn't like it myself and went with an older file and gave up the quillable feature. I can send it to you if you email me.

Not exactly true. Many railroads used the "deep steamboat" type of Hancock, step-top whistle. Some examples, such as SP "Daylights", Northern Pacific A Class 4-8-4s and Z Class articulateds, UP FEF 4-8-4s, Challengers, and 4000 Class 4-8-8-4s, Frisco, and MANY Southern Railway passenger locomotives, all carried "deep" sounding whistles.

Paul, I will take you up on it, I just sent you my e-mail.

thanks,

Mike

The best MTH "J" whistles were on the release before the quillable whistle became available. Paul is right the quillable whistle on the J was weak. The thing is the quillable whistle on the Triplex was one of MTH's best-go figure.

Scott Smith

this one is horrable to me..I rode in the 611 and saw her 6 times cooming and stoping in Erie PA..the Same with the 1218..PS1 whistle was on the money..2 and 3 are way off.

The best whistle for a J is the RS5 and the new legacy J. Both spot on. I rode and chased   The 611 back in the 80's and the two above whistles are by far the best.

heres a real video of her and you guys can compaire the whistle...used to chase it alot.. got alot of pics of her and 1218..I've been really disapionted in both lionel and MTH on there sounds..were far behind in sound compaired to HO..

I find that hard to believe as far as Lionel is concerned.

lionel is way off on there whistle on the bigboys and challengers.. MTH is alot closer..Go bug around watching youtube videos of them and you'll see..that why Im getting very bumb out about O gage...I'd tought by now Both would be on the ball in there sound systems..

I wish the electric railroad would offer a j class sound board. This wouldn't sound right in a J upgraded to tmcc. I was thinking about putting this in my Williams J with err cruise but the whistle just wouldn't sound right. 

You can.. go look at the part list on lionels site and see if the sound board is for sale?..I got ahold of TAS EOB with cruise with railsound for my s1 duplex.. found out lionel is selling the S1 sound board with chips now..some of there trains you can buy the sound board with the chips in them..

this one is alittle better on the sound..Im pretty fussy when it comes to true sounds.

That was one of Lionel's worst RS4 generic sound sets on that Utube. There are better ones, but if you want the steamboat whistle you would need the GS-4 version. I have it in my K-Line GS-4 and the whistle sounds just like the 611 in that video. It used to be available but I'm afraid it was discontinued. We are limited to only 3 steam sound sets now.

Id looked up the j611 on lionels site..shows no replacement parts!!WOW!!..now thats stinks!!

 These locos were just delivered. Mike Reagan has to get his, completely disassemble it, identify, name, photograph, list and price each part.

There should be a well detailed parts listing for these soon.Its generally a few weeks after a product is delivered that a parts list will become available.

Mike,

Here is the Link to the Premier N&W sound files.  You want to try one of the 2004 files.

  The 2008 are all weak with the quillable Whistle feature.  MTH is actually modifying the sound file to improve it.  I will bing on them about it since it has been a while.  The QW feature requires a flash board, which your engine has.  I have modified older units with this board when the original fails.  Hopefully a better version will be available soon.   G

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heres a real video of her

How many of you that watched the real video heard the echo of the whistle. Now that is something for the sound gurus to add!

As a matter of fact, I am in favor of dumping the crew talk to open up more space for an adjustable reverberation effect.

Lionel has had reverberation in their whistle soundsets since TMCC.

The new legacy j is a great example. 

Dougs video:

Here's a video of a Lionel 606 J with a nice sounding whistle. I found the RS4 board on Lionel parts for $45 I assume its compatible with the err sound commander. Does anyone know for sure? http://www.lionel.com/Customer...D10-A71D190177C5B287

I was told it will work with your err setup also work with my Train america studios engineer on board with cruise and railsound..I even got there turbo smoke unit..just got to have some guts to try to install it..gunnerjohn gave me the instrutions to it..

I would be really interested in a improved file from mth to use the quilable feature, are they really working on this.....