http://mthtrains.com/content/20-98580

or

http://mthtrains.com/content/20-98603

Anybody have these? How do they look? Are the tanks metal?

 I'm not sure how I missed them. I'm watching a lot of war stuff on the history channel and it got me looking at these. Also, someone posted a video a few weeks back of a real train of these things squealing on the rails. Sounded like a heavy load.

" on Sour mash and cheap wine " ??

Why go back to DCC when I have DCS!

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Joe,

 

The Abrams tanks are not 1/48 scale they are I think 1/56. In the catalog they look way to small but when you actually see them they don't look too bad. Check out one of Eric Siegel's video reviews. He has some sitting on a siding.

 

i model a WWII military train so I never purchased any.

 

JohnB

got lucky and found it on the first video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...er_detailpage#t=1718

28:38 into the ribbon cutting video of his new 19' bridge the tanks pass over!

They look great to me!

They should probably hang just over the edge of the flats if full sized? I remember watching the real video and seeing how they were loaded on the big flats.

" on Sour mash and cheap wine " ??

Why go back to DCC when I have DCS!

Originally Posted by Putnam Division:

Watch at about the 50 second mark and you can compare it to a car made by Geller Toy Trains with a scale M1

 

 

Peter

It's fast so I stopped it to look. Got a glimpse of how wide it is anyways. DO you know who makes that scale version? Is it Geller also?

 I would like to buy some for a new train.

" on Sour mash and cheap wine " ??

Why go back to DCC when I have DCS!

Engineer Joe,

 

I have one of the six car sets.  I model both modern military trains and WWII military trains.  They look cool.  The tanks are metal.  They look good on the TTUX flats.  What prompted me to buy a set in the 2007/2008 time frame was when I saw the actual Abrams tanks in Dagget, CA at the Marine Corp Depot on the way to Vegas.  They were on TTUX cars.  They looked cool in real life and look cool on the layout.  Only a rivet counter would worry about the size of the tanks.  They are very close to scale and you won't be disappointed.  If you have a chance to buy a six car set grab it.  I have both the desert  and green camouflage tanks.

 

P.S: I like the Geller Military Loads also.  But they are pricey.  They are very detailed.  My son bought me a couple for xmas a couple of years ago.

 

Phil

Hi Joe, I have a 1/48 scale M1A1 I bought online from a place called War Tanks.com a few years ago.  Don't know if they are still around.  Mine is made of resin and is 6 1/8 inches long (tank body only) and 2 3/4 inches wide.  I will take some pics when I charge up my camera.  I have mine on either an Atlas or Weaver U.S Army 53 foot flat car.  The tank is not quite as wide as the flat car.

 

The ones you are looking at look pretty good.

 

Rick

Originally Posted by Engineer-Joe:

http://mthtrains.com/content/20-98580

or

http://mthtrains.com/content/20-98603

Anybody have these? How do they look? Are the tanks metal?

 I'm not sure how I missed them. I'm watching a lot of war stuff on the history channel and it got me looking at these. Also, someone posted a video a few weeks back of a real train of these things squealing on the rails. Sounded like a heavy load.

Keep in mind that an M1 tank weighs about 70 tons.  Two on a flat car with 4 wheel trucks, doesn't seem right ......

Joe,

    The MTH tanks look good to me, keep in mind 1/56 to no smaller than 1/43 is larger than 1/48. So I would not put any 1/43 Bradley Fighting Vehicles or Humvees on the same train. Keep any other vehicles you add to 1/50 and you should be fine. The good thing is a M1A1 Abrams is such a BIG tank almost anything you put next to it is going to look small.

    The videos are great too. I always enjoy watching them.

 

JohnB

Originally Posted by PRRronbh:
Originally Posted by Chugman:

Here are some of the MTH ones.  I really like the looks of them in both paint jobs.

 

Art

militarytrain5

But you will NOT see mounted 50 BMGs and 7.62 machines guns while in transit!

 

Ron

That's OK on my RR!!

Six packs! I didn't even think of that. I'm off to see if I can find them.

" on Sour mash and cheap wine " ??

Why go back to DCC when I have DCS!

Friend,   If you are interested I can send you photos of M2 Bradleys I built on flat cars and an M60a1e2 made by Tamiya that is on a flat car I have for sale.   I used Weaver 50 ft flats.  The tank models are 1/48 scale.  They are in the green scheme.  Somewhere on one of the  forums I have posted photos of my modern military train with M2 Bradleys, M1A1 Abrams, Humvees, LAV25, LAV Anti Tank, LAV command vechicles and M60A1's, M109 SP howitzers.

 

Contact me at rttaz54@aol.com.

 

Thanks 

Originally Posted by burketrains:
Originally Posted by Engineer-Joe:

http://mthtrains.com/content/20-98580

or

http://mthtrains.com/content/20-98603

Anybody have these? How do they look? Are the tanks metal?

 I'm not sure how I missed them. I'm watching a lot of war stuff on the history channel and it got me looking at these. Also, someone posted a video a few weeks back of a real train of these things squealing on the rails. Sounded like a heavy load.

Keep in mind that an M1 tank weighs about 70 tons.  Two on a flat car with 4 wheel trucks, doesn't seem right ......

I'm remembering a video with them on heavy duty flats. I can't remember which ones. I will do a UT search and get back here.

 I like modern stuff and will try to get modern heavy flats for them after I see what is used today.

" on Sour mash and cheap wine " ??

Why go back to DCC when I have DCS!

here is you tube link  that has my military train.   This was taken at our club layout 4 years ago.   we are now building new bigger layout on Long Island as we lost our lease almost 2 years ago.   I can not get the link to paste so here it goes:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKuEVL9aXk.   I hope this works.

Hi Joe, a few pics of M1A1 from War Tanks,com.

 

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And lastly a Merkeva from War Tanks.com.  It's a little larger than the M1A1 even though it's 1:48 scale also.

 

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Sorry for the crappy lighting.  My flourescents don't work when it's humid.

 

Rick

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Originally Posted by JohnB:

The good thing is a M1A1 Abrams is suck a BIG tank almost anything you put next to it is going to look small.

   

 

JohnB

That is a good point I thought about . . . A scale Abrams would be too large for me. These look good: 1:56 reduces them a bit so they don't overwhelm everything around them.   I don't have them on my layout in 1:56 or any scale only because they are too modern. Nice looking tanks.   I have a bunch of MTH Shermans and some 1:48 Corgi Pattons on flatcars - they are almost too big, but . . . 

A Tank

 

I see the scale Abrams does sit wide on the flat. Seeing it's bigger than the Shermans and Pattons, I wonder if there's some restrictions on it's travels? I mean if it sticks over the sides of the flats, it maybe restricted on mainline travel?? (side clearance?).

 I think I'll order one and see how she looks.

 "M60a1e2 made by Tamiya that is on a flat car I have for sale"

Randy, I have to look this up as I don't know what it is? Modern tank right? I'm just learning this stuff and have a ways to go!

" on Sour mash and cheap wine " ??

Why go back to DCC when I have DCS!

My 1:48 scale M1A1 does not stick out over the sides of my cars but I am using Weaver and Atlas cars.  It's just a WEE bit narrower than the car is wide.  It may be wider than Lionel or Williams.

 

I have that M60A2 in 1:35 scale and it is pretty awesome looking.  Very futuristic looking.

 

Rick

 

Originally Posted by Randy T:

Friend,   If you are interested I can send you photos of M2 Bradleys I built on flat cars and an M60a1e2 made by Tamiya that is on a flat car I have for sale.   I used Weaver 50 ft flats.  The tank models are 1/48 scale.  They are in the green scheme.  Somewhere on one of the  forums I have posted photos of my modern military train with M2 Bradleys, M1A1 Abrams, Humvees, LAV25, LAV Anti Tank, LAV command vechicles and M60A1's, M109 SP howitzers.

 

Contact me at rttaz54@aol.com.

 

Thanks 

Randy, I forgot about this post. Do you still have them for sale? I will send an email.

" on Sour mash and cheap wine " ??

Why go back to DCC when I have DCS!

Originally Posted by Engineer-Joe:

I wonder if there's some restrictions on it's travels? I mean if it sticks over the sides of the flats, it maybe restricted on mainline travel?? (side clearance?).

Joe,

Anything, not just tanks (sheet steel being very common) sticking out past the side of the car would rate a Hi/Wide restriction. Of course, the wider the load, the more restrictive the orders would be. The crew handling the restricted car would get an order listing of all mileposts and speed to run where clearances on stationary objects such as rock outcrops, buildings or cars in a siding could be a problem. There would also be noted the max. speed when passing another train and if there is a need for either train to be stopped while they pass. Opposing trains could also get an order restricting their meeting of the Hi/Wide movement.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Engineer-Joe:
Originally Posted by Randy T:

Friend,   If you are interested I can send you photos of M2 Bradleys I built on flat cars and an M60a1e2 made by Tamiya that is on a flat car I have for sale.   I used Weaver 50 ft flats.  The tank models are 1/48 scale.  They are in the green scheme.  Somewhere on one of the  forums I have posted photos of my modern military train with M2 Bradleys, M1A1 Abrams, Humvees, LAV25, LAV Anti Tank, LAV command vechicles and M60A1's, M109 SP howitzers.

 

Contact me at rttaz54@aol.com.

 

Thanks 

Randy, I forgot about this post. Do you still have them for sale? I will send an email.

Joe,

 

they are still for sale.  Use my aol email to contact me.

 

Thanks

Originally Posted by prrhorseshoecurve:

Keep in mind that an M1 tank weighs about 70 tons.  Two on a flat car with 4 wheel trucks, doesn't seem right ......

So True! Somewhere someone needs to make a pair of Buckeye 3 axle trucks and place them under the TTX flats for the Abrams.

 

 Who makes modern HD 3 axle RB trucks?

http://pdhobbyshop.com/show_pr...er=Precision%20Scale

are these buckeye's RB?

" on Sour mash and cheap wine " ??

Why go back to DCC when I have DCS!

ptalar posted:

Engineer Joe,

 

I have one of the six car sets.  I model both modern military trains and WWII military trains.  They look cool.  The tanks are metal.  They look good on the TTUX flats.  What prompted me to buy a set in the 2007/2008 time frame was when I saw the actual Abrams tanks in Dagget, CA at the Marine Corp Depot on the way to Vegas.  They were on TTUX cars.  They looked cool in real life and look cool on the layout.  Only a rivet counter would worry about the size of the tanks.  They are very close to scale and you won't be disappointed.  If you have a chance to buy a six car set grab it.  I have both the desert  and green camouflage tanks.

 

P.S: I like the Geller Military Loads also.  But they are pricey.  They are very detailed.  My son bought me a couple for xmas a couple of years ago.

 

Phil

Hello ! 

Im looking to buy mth 20-98580 Abrams tanks on flat cars o gauge .... does anyone know where I could buy some or anyone willing to sell ? Name a price ! 

You could find M1A1 made by Kitech or Acedemy as they make 1/48 scale Abram tank kits.   They are not that accurate but look good on 50 and 68 foot flat cars.   I have a several I built and painted in both the NATO and Desert schemes.    There were several discussions about this a few years ago.   

I have started projects and then forgot about them many times. This is one I remembered, but still left on the back burner.

I ordered 4 of the Atlas 68' TM flat cars for the DOD. I thought there were 4 road numbers. There were only two so I got 2 sets of duplicates. I remember wanting to put 2 Abrams M1 tanks on each and never moved forward. I bought 3 Sword Abrams M1s so far, various pieces of chain and other stuff and have it all laying around here. I also bought 2 complete MTH versions but that's another story. It is cool that they come with chain devices for their loads. Their prices are getting out of hand so maybe the next release will help?

 So I remember thinking I would need 6 axle trucks for these cars and I only ordered one set of PSC #9061 to see what they looked like. They are still sealed and I never even looked closely at them. I'm hoping they will at least appear to be heavy duty versions that might be acceptable on these cars? Probably the wrong era but they're something anyways. I would prefer actual ball bearings inside for proper rolling in longer trains.

 Has anyone assembled these PSC #9061 trucks? Easy?

What are they supposed to be used for? Think I can get them to work with these Atlas cars?

Are there better options with real bearings out there?

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I believe these cars have the older Atlas couplers instead of the newest ones? 

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This is bad. I forgot that I had an old Kitech 1/48 scale Abrams tank kit laying around here.

I did not check it for accuracy against the real thing. The 1/48 tank is roughly 1/2" wider than the smaller Sword version. However, the length is just about the same?

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So I guess it would be nice to know the dimensions of the actual tank!

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