As a “minor road” it has been hard to assemble a steam era T&P passenger train. I did buy four of the new Lionel Sunshine Special cars plus thanks to Rattler 21 I have the Golden Gate Depot T&P baggage. Motive power is the inaccurate coal fired never-was Mike by Lionel.., oh well WW-2 war emergency conditions, they had to make do... I filled in the train with generic MTH Pullmans and that’s an Atlas T&P Express box up front. 

The rpo is up front behind the baggage my photos are slightly out of order.

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Griff, Nice Train. I intend to do a similar train. I currently have a MP heavy Mikado for a locomotive. What cat. no. is the T&P express refer?  I don't believe that I have seen the Atlas express refer in the T&P livery.  I have several in MP livery.  Regards, Pat B.

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Thanks, guys! My uncle Henry Murphey had Grammer-Murphey Department Store in Midland, Texas.  My mom got big discounts there and I often rode the T&P with her in a roomette which by the way the T&P ones were about like the Amtrak Bedrooms today. I have Many happy memories of blue lights in the yards flashing by and the Doppler song of the crossings .

The item number of my express box is 3001023-3. Yesterday I went through a box of memorabilia from my parents and found a great treasure, a T&P timetable.

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Tom, when was that? I could be wrong but I think those Walthers O scale kits are no longer made.

BTW... random Ft. Worth memory... As a boy I remember Tolson had a T&P O gauge display train “not for sale.” I think it was an All Nation 2 Rail Pacific and several Lionel Madison cars. Later as the store was closing I asked him about it as it had disappeared and he denied he’d ever had it. 

Thanks again Tom! I will do that. I had the catalog as a boy and I remember the extensive inventory of kits and that they had T&P. With modern techniques one might be able to get one of those tin and wood kits to look good enough to match the plastic ready made stuff of today.

Griff, super nice looking passenger train, and I like the Sunshine Special StationSounds Observation dining car. I like heavyweight passenger cars. Wow. Your floor layout is very nice, the lighted buildings and your trackwork super neat. I like the Steamer pulling the set, very nice, thanks for posting these pictures. 

While we are dealing with T&P - Here is a nice long Texas Train a little fanciful running a couple of cars not correct for the 2-10-4 but very Texan. Two Sunoco tank cars at the rear as a homage to Lionel! 

I was videographer grandson was the hogger needs work in his whistling ...

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While we are dealing with T&P - Here is a nice long Texas Train a little fanciful running a couple of cars not correct for the 2-10-4 but very Texan. Two Sunoco tank cars at the rear as a homage to Lionel! 

I was videographer grandson was the hogger needs work in his whistling ...

Who made the T&P caboose (and cat. #)?Thanks

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Griff Murphey posted:

As a “minor road” it has been hard to assemble a steam era T&P passenger train. I did buy four of the new Lionel Sunshine Special cars plus thanks to Rattler 21 I have the Golden Gate Depot T&P baggage. Motive power is the inaccurate coal fired never-was Mike by Lionel.., oh well WW-2 war emergency conditions, they had to make do... I filled in the train with generic MTH Pullmans and that’s an Atlas T&P Express box up front. 

The rpo is up front behind the baggage my photos are slightly out of order.

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Really nice consist. Tough to put together when no one hardly ever manufactures T&P or MP. The “generic” Pullmans are a nice addition. 
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Thanks again Tom! I will do that. I had the catalog as a boy and I remember the extensive inventory of kits and that they had T&P. With modern techniques one might be able to get one of those tin and wood kits to look good enough to match the plastic ready made stuff of today.

I was a little kid during the big party 1776 to 1976.T&P 2-10-4  came through my state N.C.Big locomotive wished I could have seen her.

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Griff Murphey posted:

Thanks again Tom! I will do that. I had the catalog as a boy and I remember the extensive inventory of kits and that they had T&P. With modern techniques one might be able to get one of those tin and wood kits to look good enough to match the plastic ready made stuff of today.

I was a little kid during the big party 1776 to 1976.T&P 2-10-4  came through my state N.C.Big locomotive wished I could have seen her.

Cool looking passenger train btw.

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Mine is the (IMO) more scale looking steel caboose MTH 20-91103. The Railking is kind of a takeoff of the old Lionel NYC type.

The Premier model is Much nice than the RailKing model. There was also a nice MP Premier model around this time. I missed them all - and if I’m not mistaken none have been reissued since. Nothing for 27 years or so. ☹️  I’ve since run across RK model and passed. It sits WAY to high - lots of air between trucks and body. So the 2Premier models have become a Quest to complete a T&P or MP consist. NO CABOOSE. 😑. I’ve pleaded with manufactures and only get “crickets”. 
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TrainBub posted:
Griff Murphey posted:

Mine is the (IMO) more scale looking steel caboose MTH 20-91103. The Railking is kind of a takeoff of the old Lionel NYC type.

The Premier model is Much nice than the RailKing model. There was also a nice MP Premier model around this time. I missed them all - and if I’m not mistaken none have been reissued since. Nothing for 27 years or so. ☹️  I’ve since run across RK model and passed. It sits WAY to high - lots of air between trucks and body. So the 2Premier models have become a Quest to complete a T&P or MP consist. NO CABOOSE. 😑. I’ve pleaded with manufactures and only get “crickets”. 
Trainbub

Oops !!! Fat fingers.
17 years. Not 27 !!!

 

I was in the Navy when the American Freedom Train came through Fort Worth but had fortuitously come home from Camp Pendleton to get engaged and my future wife and I saw the 610 in action.

This thread proves there is substantial interest in Texas and Pacific. One would think the market is so saturated with NYC, PRR, C&O, ATSF etc. they’d look at doing more for us. When they do make it it seems they sell all they make easily.

TrainBub posted:
Griff Murphey posted:

Mine is the (IMO) more scale looking steel caboose MTH 20-91103. The Railking is kind of a takeoff of the old Lionel NYC type.

The Premier model is Much nice than the RailKing model. There was also a nice MP Premier model around this time. I missed them all - and if I’m not mistaken none have been reissued since. Nothing for 27 years or so. ☹️  I’ve since run across RK model and passed. It sits WAY to high - lots of air between trucks and body. So the 2Premier models have become a Quest to complete a T&P or MP consist. NO CABOOSE. 😑. I’ve pleaded with manufactures and only get “crickets”. 
Trainbub

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Took matters into my own hands:  K-Line caboose painted and lettered for the MoPac.  Not perfectly prototypical, but close enough for me when I have nothing else.

Frisco, MoPac, and T&P near Rolla, MO

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TrainBub posted:
Griff Murphey posted:

Mine is the (IMO) more scale looking steel caboose MTH 20-91103. The Railking is kind of a takeoff of the old Lionel NYC type.

The Premier model is Much nice than the RailKing model. There was also a nice MP Premier model around this time. I missed them all - and if I’m not mistaken none have been reissued since. Nothing for 27 years or so. ☹️  I’ve since run across RK model and passed. It sits WAY to high - lots of air between trucks and body. So the 2Premier models have become a Quest to complete a T&P or MP consist. NO CABOOSE. 😑. I’ve pleaded with manufactures and only get “crickets”. 
Trainbub

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Took matters into my own hands:  K-Line caboose painted and lettered for the MoPac.  Not perfectly prototypical, but close enough for me when I have nothing else.

Beautiful. Nice red/brown wood caboose. I’d love to have this in either MP or T&P. Looks like it sits on trucks nice too. I’ve not attempted custom paint job but this one tempts me. Have no KLine. I’ll have to be watching at shows. 
Thanks for sharing. 
Trainbub

GoldenGate did a run of Heavyweights and T&P was included (I tried to get MO added to offering but to no avail) in the run (nice tag along to go with their brass T&P 2-10-4 #610).  The Hwts included RPO, Baggage, Diner, and Observation. Pullmans were also issued and I think unlettered versions. All was by reservations. There were no “remainders” and I’ve not seen Any of these for resale. (public Delivery Track occasionally has T&P, MP items). They are quite nice and if it makes nice add to your collections,  I recommend watching favorite sale/resale site as people do shuffle their collections. 
Cheers

Trainbub

I sold off other hobby stuff to buy mine. Love mine.... though, Right now the sound is out - the chuff. Everything else works. 

My two Rail O scale expert friend says the crummy old Max Gray ones are going for $3-4K. These new 3rd Rail ones will likely appreciate a good deal in the coming years. 

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I sold off other hobby stuff to buy mine. Love mine.... though, Right now the sound is out - the chuff. Everything else works. 

My two Rail O scale expert friend says the crummy old Max Gray ones are going for $3-4K. These will likely appreciate a good deal in the coming years. 

I think max 50 2 rail 50 3rail then split into all the different versions this and includes CGW pieces. This is why I HAD to stretch. So few !!! Unlikely ever again. 
Now if we could get the Frisco 1522 done !!!!!!!!!!!  (Grew up in St. Louis, school in Rolla, fixing to “repatriate back to St. Louis in retirement)

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Does anyone have a 1927550 Sunshine Special RPO?  They seem to be sold out.  Which dealer might still have this. I had no idea that they had been released. I have the Sunshine Special #1 and #2 sets and have ordered the #3 set and the station sounds diner and they are on the way, but I am short the RPO.  Pat B.

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