GunrunnerJohn,
I have not seen any "must have" features based on what I have read. If I didn't have what I have from a tech perspective / just joining the hobby, I am sure I would have a different view. Thank you for validating it.
John
I'm sure that in time Lionel will strive to add some BASE3 Exclusive features to new products to push people into buying it. Right now, I don't see anything significant that it would add to my operations. Given the poor performance and range of the current generation of BlueTooth products, I avoid that mode of operation and strictly use TMCC/Legacy.
GunrunnerJohn,
100% my sentiments exactly.
John
@gunrunnerjohn posted:I'm sure that in time Lionel will strive to add some BASE3 Exclusive features to new products to push people into buying it. Right now, I don't see anything significant that it would add to my operations. Given the poor performance and range of the current generation of BlueTooth products, I avoid that mode of operation and strictly use TMCC/Legacy.
It looks like a lot of people are buying the Base-3 and many of them already have TMCC or Legacy. So, most people seem to be aware of advantages of upgrading.
No doubt the Base-3 will be a big hit for Lionel.
@Madockawando posted:It looks like a lot of people are buying the Base-3 and many of them already have TMCC or Legacy. So, most people seem to be aware of advantages of upgrading.
Still leading the cheer I see. So tell me, what are those burning advantages of the BASE3 over the Legacy system most of us currently have?
@gunrunnerjohn posted:Still leading the cheer I see. So tell me, what are those burning advantages of the BASE3 over the Legacy system most of us currently have?
Absolutely leading the Lionel cheer! There is a lot of good stuff going on with Lionel. Don’t you want Lionel to do well? Don’t you sell Lionel in your store?? Why does it bother you that somebody wants Lionel to do well and enjoy their trains? And since a lot of people are buying the Base-3, the question you should be asking is: “What is it that they know that I don’t know?” 😉
@Madockawando posted:It looks like a lot of people are buying the Base-3 and many of them already have TMCC or Legacy. So, most people seem to be aware of advantages of upgrading.
No doubt the Base-3 will be a big hit for Lionel.
And you have sales figures that back this up? Or just a rah-rah cheerleader without an actual clue? As far as I know, base 3 isn't even shipping yet, so who's buying? What advantages of upgrading, you seem to be vague on that, other than the currently ridiculous prices of the no longer produced legacy systems.
@Magicland posted:And you have sales figures that back this up? Or just a rah-rah cheerleader without an actual clue? As far as I know, base 3 isn't even shipping yet, so who's buying? What advantages of upgrading, you seem to be vague on that, other than the currently ridiculous prices of the no longer produced legacy systems.
Lots of people have ordered the Base-3. Why does that bother you?? Don’t you want Lionel and the hobby to be successful?
Here we go again ....
Calm down guys. It's a hobby
Alan this entire discussion is bizarre.
We don’t want a base 3 and based on that want Lionel to go broke and the hobby to fail???
This needs the BIG RED delete button. Sorry but I don’t know how to notify you.
@Madockawando posted:Another person who wants to see the hobby fail. Lots of people have ordered the Base-3. Why does that bother you?? Don’t you want Lionel and the hobby to be successful?
How the heck do you equate wanting YOU to be truthful with wanting to see the hobby fail? Who are these "lots of people"? Where are you getting these numbers other than pulling them out of thin air? Do you own a hobby shop? If so, how many base 3 preorders have you taken? If not, stop lying to us.
@Magicland posted:How the heck do you equate wanting YOU to be truthful with wanting to see the hobby fail? Who are these "lots of people"? Where are you getting these numbers other than pulling them out of thin air? Do you own a hobby shop? If so, how many base 3 preorders have you taken? If not, stop lying to us.
Lionel is doing well, the Base-3 is a big seller and this is good for the hobby.
@Madockawando posted:And since a lot of people are buying the Base-3, the question you should be asking is: “What is it that they know that I don’t know?” 😉
Exactly what I asked, and your answer is not very illuminating. So please, tell me exactly what the burning benefits of the BASE3 over my current Legacy system. Why dodge the question since you seem to be the authority on the BASE3 and all it's wonders? If there's a gulf in my knowledge, by all means, fill it.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:Exactly what I asked, and your answer is not very illuminating. So please, tell me exactly what the burning benefits of the BASE3 over my current Legacy system. Why dodge the question since you seem to be the authority on the BASE3 and all it's wonders? If there's a gulf in my knowledge, by all means, fill it.
I don’t know…. Lots people seem to be very happy with Lionel. The last catalog orders are strong, lots great locomotives and sets and the Base-3 is going to be a winner and a big seller for Lionel. Why wouldn’t this make you happy?
@Madockawando posted:Lionel is doing well, the Base-3 is a big seller and this is good for the hobby.
Well... Lionel doing well is good to know. The only folks that I know of that have pre-ordered the Base-3 are me (and, maybe Marty?) So, Lionel may have two (2) in the bank.
@Dennis-LaRock posted:Well... Lionel doing well is good to know. The only folks that I know of that have pre-ordered the Base-3 are me (and, maybe Marty?) So, Lionel may have two (2) in the bank.
Well I am very excited by the Base-3 especially as my Lionel Legacy roster continues to grow. Any shipping dates yet?
My insufficient memory is conjuring up the 3rd quarter...
@RJ Shier posted:Here we go again ....
Calm down guys. It's a hobby
The angst in this discussion has nothing to do with the hobby, which is precisely why it belongs on some other forum rather than OGR.
Does anyone know if there's a "Hit your head against the wall repeatedly" forum somewhere?
As soon as I find one I'm headed there ...
Mike
@Madockawando posted:I don’t know…. Lots people seem to be very happy with Lionel. The last catalog orders are strong, lots great locomotives and sets and the Base-3 is going to be a winner and a big seller for Lionel. Why wouldn’t this make you happy?
Wow, a total non-answer, why did I expect anything more?
Where did I say I was unhappy with Lionel? I spend thousands of dollars a years with Lionel. We are SPECIFICALLY talking about the BASE3 and what it brings to the party, let's review the topic of the thread.
New Lionel Base3 transition thoughts for my layout
The sad thing is, you're pushing so hard on this, yet you can't even give me one reason that I should discard my perfectly working Legacy system and buy the BASE3. Can you stop the cheer-leading for one post and tell me why you think I should buy a BASE3 and retire my Legacy system? If I've missed some major benefit of the change, please let me know!
@Dennis-LaRock posted:My insufficient memory is conjuring up the 3rd quarter...
Great!! So perhaps at the end of the summer.. or maybe the base-3 will be here in time for York in October. One can hope!
